"Things in the film but says she didn't worry about mimicking Garland's Orlands iconic voice and I try not to think about that and I'm still trying not to think about that Because I know that that wasn't what Rupert was trying to achieve with this it was more more about her humanity An opportunity to capture the essence of this extraordinary woman and conceptualize the experiences of her life in that period of her life. Con Audience are weekdays. You Sing my mouth and there is a fascinating review that we found of the original concerts in one thousand nine hundred sixty eight in the observer and this is what the critic said in part. She doesn't really give a concert. She conducts a seance. She evokes pity and sorrow like no other superstar so and that seems to fit really into the movie about what's going on in Judy's life at the time of this story. So how would you describe the chaos that is all around her and how that chaos starts to show itself on stage when she's performing. I mean this is bliss. We're talking about performance connecting with audiences. And obviously it's her gift and it's also what she relies on for her freedom and financial stability the and her ability to take care of herself. She was in debt and she didn't have a home place to live She was having difficulty finding work in the United States. Because it's her reputation was not one of of great reliability and then. There's this addiction that we didn't I guess we'll we understand a little bit more about these days obviously coupled with anxieties. And you know just years and years and years of working this thing that you're supposed to take very great care of which I've come to learn about The instrument that you can't just push and push and push The chaos I suppose is just we know what you see on the outside is usually a manifestation of what's on the inside and all of those things one of those things that she was experiencing at the time would have been enough life to To break person and I think that that's what's so interesting about talking about this time in her life It's not I don't. I don't think that there's any shame in it. I think that it just really highlights. How exceptional she was that she was able to overcome all of this mess And perform form and still give so much to her audiences and Despite the abuse and the wear on her instrument point she still she. He's still delivered. You know she still could hit those notes and break your heart like nobody. The other thing that I think is really interesting about the film is is. Judy Garland had addiction issues. But those addiction issues were started by Hollywood that she was punished and untreated in ways. That were almost. I think are inhumane. In terms of the way the studio treated her the way they talked about her weight what she couldn't eat pete how she had to be on medication and that feels like a central idea. The film that this is not a woman who is making choices in her own life. Those choices were we're made for her before she had agency that's true and and obviously a Obviously it's going to change your body chemistry and create create a situation where you can't function without whatever it was that they were giving you to help you deliver on such a crazy schedule. Will you know And that's another thing I think is interesting. It's it's it it sort of puts contacts that this was not a choice as not person who wakes up in the morning and wants a handful of pills because she just doesn't feel feel like dealing with the day. This is woman who would have seizures if she overslept and woke up having not having her medication. It's it's tragic in that respect but again when you look at what she was capable of in spite of all of that and the lack of understanding around her about what that means. And what you you might do To to treat it As we better understand today yeah I mean I think the people who were most willing to enable her with the people who are most able to make a profit off of it and I don't even know that it is nefarious is that I don't know that people were thinking. Well we know the cost of this and we don't care. I think it ignorance all the way around. This was helpful. This was helpful because it made her feel better and help turn needless sleep. And she could get through these grueling days with all of these numbers and and I'm not sure that that they knew what it was that they were doing in terms of launching this this ship to sail down this path for a lifetime. Kind that was Renee Zellweger. She was nominated for an Oscar. Today for playing. Judy Garland in Judy Up. Next on the frame Hilter Gunar doc wrote the music for joker and she became only the ninth woman ever nominated in the music scoring categories. Welcome back to the frame. I'm John Horn. The honor for the Most Academy Award nominations today went to joker which received eleven picks including leading best picture director for Todd Phillips and Actor for Joaquin Phoenix also nominated. Was the film score. The music was composed by Iceland's Hilda. Guna daughter WHO's having a breakout year. She won an Emmy for her music on. HBO's Chur Noble and Today Guna dodger became only the ninth woman ever ever nominated in the music scoring categories fee recently spoke with the frames. Jonathan Shift let my name is dotted and I am the cellist and composer for film some Joker."