2020 Golden Globes: Winners and Losers

The Big Picture


This is the big picture a conversation show about the seventy seven. Th annual golden in global wards. Amanda here we are once more. We think we know what we're talking about. Enter these things with great confidence even knowing that the Golden Globe boards are famous famously. wonky messy goofy silly stupid and they have shocked us once more. Nineteen eighteen seventeen has won best drama. which I don't think either one of US predicted we in fact you did not pick that I think we thought all four of the other contenders had a good story story? I I do want to say you and I washed together and you. I believe pitched picked joker on our podcast Dixie Irishman. And at one point you shared with me that your wife was going with marriage story and and we watched a two popes commercial and I was like well it could be two popes and you said you. We've now talked about the possibility party of four of the five winners which means it'll probably be nineteen seventeen now. Look you and I are very lucky to have these jobs. We are but I do not claim to know anything like. I'm just going to put this on the table here. I don't I don't know anything. I know people who knows stuff but I don't know anything and this is an example of having any confidence about doing any of this stuff. I thought a lot of Adam. Sandler's character from uncut gems. When that moment happening where I was like this is what must be like to be an awful gambler? I think I went like four for fourteen tonight. Some brutal number. I think you and I are luckily tied at four hundred fourteen. I just WanNa remind you that I very confidently set on the podcast. I I think I got four wrong. That's true and I thought that would have been impressive. It's only get four rowing and four wrong would have been absolutely extraordinary. You would have been going straight to the damn. Am Bank on forum is tough interesting. Telecast tonight I actually thought it was quite a dull show for most of it. There were some head-scratching picks. There were some entertaining speeches. Let's let's we'll get back to nineteen seventeen and all the races. We'll go through race by race but before we do that. Let's just talk. About the telecast itself Ricky Gervais returned earned as the host fifth time he brought a a unique energy the show this year an energy I would describe as fuck all. He really did not seem to care. Think he literally did describe it as that multiple times when he told the audience to go fuck themselves. He was mercilessly bleeped. Throughout out the night He really had the attitude of a person who would be happy to be anywhere else but at this award show I'll be honest. I know it's not cool to set kind kind of enjoyed it you did I. I kind of enjoyed it not because I thought he was funny or useful but just because it was different. I've never really seen that before. There was a train wreck vibe to it you. You kept cackling at like you. Would just he would say something and it would be silent and then and then you would react to the fact that nothing was happening but him just like melting down. I love the idea of people who work at network or a famous person in the audience watching just like quietly recoiling at everything happening onstage on stage. There's something kind of joker ask about that and I I thought your race was kind of like fake provocative. Most of the night and a lot of the jokes. We're kind of like ooh look at me but not actually with anything deep to say about anything which is a lot of his humor in the last five to ten years but he definitely succeeded in bringing just the sheer shear nihilism to the performance. Yeah and I thought that was the one thing that was a mistake. I don't really care about Ricky Gervais xl. I didn't think he was very funny but I wasn't offended ended. My main thought process there is monologue was like oh I really don't like comedy like I don't like the active comedy or anyone who thinks that they're a comedian. It's just like not for me so you know. Yeah that's that's how I spent my time tonight but bio for you by the way comedy. Not For me. It's really not just don't care. I don't think it's funny but I agree that the show is boring and it felt like purposeless a lot of the time and some of that you remarked as we were watching all the commercials for like whatever weird. NBC Plane Show. They were debut and it would say when it was airing on NBC would say like an streaming the next day and there were commercials for Peacock. Doc and Amazon and ethics and all of the platforms and it was just very clear that this is a network. TV like dying right in front of our eyes yes it was a stegosaurus. Soroush slowly falling to its dinosaur needs so hiring someone to stand up on stage and be like this doesn't matter on the one on hand it's true it really doesn't. It's very putting his finger on the truth of the thing but you know they're still trying to get people to watch the show for three hours in order to cover. The advertising is and and to save their network and it I just did. Your Vase just reminded me of like this. Like this is an outdated form like. This actually has no relevance it didn't make me feel feel bad about committing my time to it though for some reason maybe that's just a six drain of my personality. But I I never felt like well I do. Think the show at Townsville purposeless. I didn't think think that his like ruthlessly blase approach to everything. I I just I. I liked it. There was. It was not the same old like back patty glad handing and and also the same Tina fey and amy poehler ask like were above it but will also do the show Biz dance thing you know that. That was raised a characteristic of their three times hosting. I think all of which were pretty fantastic. I I love them as hosts but the tonality of their hosting was always like. Isn't this stupid but also I will perform for it. This was the first time I ever saw anybody in this job. Go like fuck it. I don't care yeah I guess that's interesting as a one one time thing. I don't think you can ever do it again. Right couldn't run it back. Yeah and he swore up and down that he would not be back. I just I understand that reaction. I spent the whole time being like I'm being reminded so many different ways that I have complete control over what I want to watch now and what I content I want to take in and I just. I really really don't need to be listening to ricky surveys right now. which is now because she was defending me or because he was spectacularly unfunny? I was like I don't need this it's a great point I wonder how what what percentage of humans who are watching television. I chose actively to just throw on a streaming service instead of watch this award. Show which is what they would have done. Yeah say fifteen years ago to fascinating thing anything else else to say about your vase. I mean he really just gave his monologue and then came out. And kinda deep side his way through a couple of introductions and that was really the whole show that is true I they will say that the only kind of provocation that I was like I'll give him credit for or the I will remember is every time he would just yell back at the audience. Yes you did it not me. Shades of Amanda hosting play. Yeah it was. It was unusual. I look forward to the future hosts of the Golden Globes. I think we have now served our ricky surveys time. Yes other notable things things from this. TV Show Ellen was was fitted with a with a big old tribute. The Carol Burnett Award which is now an annual award which I guess last year was the first year Carol Burnett won this award and It was interesting I I think on the one hand Ellen. Degeneres is a hugely important figure socially because when she came out that sort of change changed the perception for a lot of people of the gay lifestyle in America and what a celebrity could be in the future. Twenty years of career has been much more about being a extremely extremely rich famous person and posting talk show and I couldn't help but notice an American Express logo in the middle of the montage that to her that did happen and a career highlight montage included her being an American Express commercial. That seemed like Perhaps a subtle metaphor to a lot of the things happening in such an image is to Ellen's career. Yes I agree with that. I will say I thought they keep Mckinnon speech to her was very moving and funny. That was the one time I was like. Oh I do like comedy and and you can see Ellen. Being moved by that. And and that's why she was on the stage. I think I think that's the reason that they can give her the award. Or that's that's the stated reason and then it is also because she's just been on. TV for seven years like printing money for various people. Yeah you the Hollywood. Foreign Press gives out a lot of awards on the night they give out awards to actors and actresses and writers and directors and even composers and Ellen doesn't really do any of those things. She hosts a TV show but there is no best variety show category so she used to be on the Sitcom but that it was a long time ago. Why why was Ellen at the Golden Globes because people who would not otherwise watch the Golden Globes like Ellen and they watch every day on TV and they watched the clips on answering? I gotTa tell you on the instagram explore tab like an interview with someone POPs up. I'll watch that. I'll watch that stuff steph. Every time I wash it into minute increments you know. I also have a lot of thoughts about Ellen's Politics in the last ten years that I'll keep to myself so but but I think did they give her the award because it brings a different audience. Let me ask you this. Where was Dakota Johnson? That's what I want great question that is so good for those of you. Who Don't know there's a legendary moment on the Ellen Show in which she interviewed Dakota Johnson to Johnson Mentioned that she was having a Christmas party. And Ellen said where's my invitation to send it to you. And she said I never got got it. And then they had a bit of a showdown and I think Dakota came out on the other side of that one. The champion is she did because Allen had been invited I believe it to her birthday party. Ellen was out of town and do you know where L.. It was the weekend of Dakota Johnsons Birthday Party. I was she in Amarillo. Texas with George. Yes she was there you go so yeah Ellen was celebrated. That was fine. I tend to enjoy these lifetime. Achievement awards I think one of the sadnesses sadnesses of where the Oscars now is. Because you know no offense but demons like you complain about how long the show is and so we have to lose things. He's like a lifetime. Achievement awards out of the Oscars which gets into the governor's awards which happened months ahead of time. And we don't get to hear about the great works of I don't know Sidney Lumet or Sidney Poitier gay or other great men named Sydney and unfortunately we don't see that at the Oscars we do see it at the Globes and we saw another great tribute to another great great man not named Sydney. This man is named Tom's names. Tom Hanks this was a this was lovely. I was very moved by it. I'm just moving past all the slander. We'll relitigate the Oscars for two and a half hour. Make them you know. Don't link continuous. Shot make a good TV show making good TV. Show that people WANNA watch all the way to save movies. It's the only way to save TV. It's the only way to save like I don't know celebrities and rooms together just make TV. Show anyway. I thought the time hanks was good TV. Because you know who's Great Tom. BUGGING HANGS AMERICA'S SWEETHEART GETS UP. There starts crying two seconds because his family sitting in the wrought Edison because he was on. I think he's a nice person. And he was like someone had fed him Hypno- and he was he was fading out and then he just goes goes into like your uncle who knows a lot about making movies and wants to give you advice mode. It was great told you all about the gate. Yeah the gate cleans. The closing properly is a I also just watching the montage. I just pointed out to me I just really love Tom. Hanks his work and also I was thinking about our podcast and the hall of fame. And I'm really really mad that I caved on. You've got mail. I should have put it in over sleepless in Seattle. I'm just saying that now. I'd like to apologize to the many people who reach out to let me know that they would have supported. Did that decision. I let you guys down. I will say I have not thought about that one. Since can I have thought frequently about how we left Saving Private Ryan off. which was you? It was my fault but I was reminded instantaneously upon that podcast publishing. In fact that podcast went live and I felt like three seconds later. People were like where saving private private Ryan. Even though they had not listened to it we next it saving private Ryan did make an appearance in this montage Tom Hanks's made like thirty bad movies. And it doesn't matter because his good movies are so good in so meaningful to people and his funkier sincere just general good guy nece makes people feel good and he happened to be in a good movie this year which is very helpful. He did not win unfortunately though he was nominated for best supporting actor for Beautiful Day in the neighborhood I thought it was great. I thought you know. That's not really surprising. He he is professionally decent and he seemed like a good person. He was very happy to have his family there. He was very happy to pay a lot of respect to Martin. Scorsese I believe. He gestured towards him three times during his speech which was adorable. You know I just. I wish that there were actually more things like yes. I like to be reminded of the people I like making these movies. That's the whole point of these award. Shows it's not to like breakdown whether nineteen seventeen is going to win at the Oscars like that's rusted. Do the awards shows themselves are to celebrate the great people in the great stuff. I still like that.

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