Listen: Michael Cohen: What Trump lashing out at his ex-lawyer reveals
"Plead means, and and you know, what it means for President Trump. Well, that's the big question. And we don't know that just yet because it's likely to depend on what Michael Cohen told Robert Muller and his team. And that's the big number. We're looking at we are told that he spent more than seventy hours talking to investigators from the special counsel's office about the two thousand sixteen campaign at about the president's potential business ties to Russia and any connection or conversations between the two sides. That's a lot of time. I mean to put that in to work week's really for people and imagine the things that he was being. Asked about we asked the president at the White House on Thursday. If he was nervous at all concerned about what Cohen may have said to Robert Muller and his team, the president said simply, no, he's not worried at all. When you think about I'm Michael Cohen. And just how close he was the president for so many years. I mean, these these are people who are extremely tight. I mean he can be called week Michael Cohen now. But for many many years, he was the guy who has a right hand man for President Trump is hurting, sir. Yes. The personal attorney, but far more than that a close confidante his fixer somebody who was a problem solver, and you know, in the rough and tumble world of New York real estate to have a guy like that who's going to go to the mat for us invaluable. So the president on Thursday came out. He he didn't even take questions. He just started talking to us at the White House because he clearly wanted to come out and make a statement after this news the play by Michael Cohen and the president over the course of nine minutes called Cohen a liar. He called him a weak person several times he called him and not very smart person. While the. Obvious question to that. Then is so why did you hire him? And why did you keep him on your payroll for more than a decade and the president very simply said he did a favor for me a long time ago. So let's talk about Trump Tower Moscow. And just exactly what it means that the president was working on this, which is what he said he was during you know, when he spoke outside with the helicopter behind him. You know, what exactly this this deal means if he did pursue this all the way up until June of two thousand sixteen it's a timing question. What they said was happening. And when Michael Cohen told lawmakers at the project was abandoned in January of two thousand sixteen right as the primary season is getting underway. He now says that's not true that the project didn't end until June, which of course, was well into the campaign season when the president had effectively wrapped up the Republican nomination. Cohen also says he briefed the president and members of his family on multiple occasions about this and was even talking about a visit. Well, he was talking about this project with. Top officials in the Russian government dont just business people over there and that he was going to visit Moscow, and maybe even have the president go and visit. But that of course, did not happen. The president for two years has denied that he had any business dealings with Russia. He now is saying that, you know, this was not a secret project was out there that you can run for president and also continue your business. But this is just raising a lot of questions about what this potential business deal meant for his policies on the campaign trail his approach to sanctions on Russia about its aggression in Ukraine, which was very different than what Republicans were saying on Capitol Hill at the same time his positions on Russia and Ukraine in two thousand sixteen were very different from everybody else. Running for president. Now, this brings up a lot of questions of was this. Why proven and the president says, no that's not the case. But you know, lot more things that were chipping away at now to find out what this all meant back during the primary season ABC's. Karen Travers at the White House. Thank. As always, thank you."