Listen: Discussing allegations of Trump hiring undocumented workers
"The law. They will be terminated immediately out front now Steve Cortez member of the president's twenty twenty reelected visory council and Keith boykin, former Clinton White House aide, Keith your reaction. This is typical Trump inconsistency. We see this in in the pattern in the past. We know that he was having his Trump's search that were made in bang. With us. We know the Trump ties were made in China. Trump suits were made in Mexico where the Trump was hiring workers seasonal workers who are foreigners for mar-a-lago in Florida. We also that Trump's wineries were hiring seasonal workers who are foreigners in Virginia. Yeah. So Trump does a lot of talk about immigration, and how horrible it is to have foreigners coming in and taking our jobs, but he's one of the chief culprits who's guilty of that practice, but the predator talked about their keep is legal immigration in those cases at mar Lago and at the winery say a key distinction. This is illegal. Let's be clear, and let's also be clear the New York Times said in its story. There's no indication at all that the president knew about this or that management of Trump or just make one point on that. Okay. Because I happen to know people who work in these industries and have to hire people, and it is common practice for people to submit false paperwork and everybody knows they do it because you can't get enough workers. And they do it. They have fake numbers. They do it. Everybody knows that the IRS even knows they do it. The times actually says they ran. Ms Morales, quote, unquote, security, number social security, number who several public databases non got a match, which is indication. It's invalid number on the back of the green card doesn't correspond to the format used any basic smell test. It would appear this is this is quite common. Okay. So when they say, oh, we have strict tiring practice. I don't know. All I caught. I don't doubt that some low level manager shows do not look with a skeptical. I we're talking look kind of demeanor. She made. I mean, she wouldn't she wouldn't have been hired by the president. All right. She wouldn't have been talking about him. I'm just saying the console you're saying it would manager that new right? And here's the thing. What this case proves. I'll be the first woman. It's Miley embarrassing for the president. Of course, someone who rails against illegal immigration turns out he has one in proximity to him working not just resort. Nations. Others. Well, no one that we know over to in this literally cleaning his personal. So clearly Tommy the, but here's the thing. You know, what approves the fact that she was able to work there in the fact that she used counterfeit illegally used conifer documents to get that job. It shows us how pernicious and pervasive. This problem is of illegal immigration is a hypocrite as the Trump does not like these things seriously. That's not fair. He did not hire company really was serious about about not hiring illegal immigrants as he called could've rented basic due diligence test to to through e-verify approve. This wasn't true. Trump bragged on the campaign trail that he did either at nobody which nobody knew nobody didn't nobody's fail. Clearly, he was talking specifically. This. He was talking specifically about the new Trump hotel, which was his newest project, and he was he said, he said, no. And he said emphatically no-one illegal is hired. We did e-verify throughout. So that was important. This one was hired before he got into policy. Let me ask you a question. Stephen. And you tell me whether you think it's relevant. The New York Times reports she doesn't speak English, which would not necessarily mean citizen or not. But she's made the bench, which does not speak English. Trump asked her her name where she was from with our basic English. And she said, I'm from Guatemala, right? And his response was quantum Amal's work, incredibly hard. And here's the button, see was generous. Right. Tipped her. No one saying that. But but but I mean, look he's got a lot going on. But it would appear a little bit hard for him to have not really at that point. Why should he say, hey is everything I I'm running this platform? Can we make sure everything's if she were sent from Guatemala, and then he would say are you a legal? You would attack him for being biased against the Spanish vies against warn people suggest that he would say that to her. He would make that game. Cow was not doing like because everybody else to do. The Trump wants the police officers in ficials in every city in America to be asking immigrants in this country. People who look different news, that example to cooperate with federal law. Illegal aliens. And the hypocrisy of you talking about the Trump hotel e-verify thing when Trump built his own very own Trump Tower, nineteen eighty he hired polish undocumented workers to build that tower. His stiff them he didn't pay them, nor that it's true. It's documented and Trump. This is a history goes way back. It's not to something. He started doing recently. He's been doing this for decades. And he doesn't really care about immigration, except as a wedge to use against his opponent vilify people who we think can be easily demonized. That's totally untrue. Here's here's his suggestions. Rather New York Times article today, there are eight million illegal works in the United States. I actually think there's quite a bit more than that. But let's just accept the times. There's eight million illegal workers think of how much higher wages would be American citizens, particularly working class people do a lot of these menial jobs that we're talking about if we didn't have eight million illegal workers competing with them in the labor market. Donald Trump identified the unfairness of that. He realized that both parties Republican democrat were complicit in tolerating if not encouraging illegal immigration. So you're. Saying the president's willing to hire people to do jobs for more than Americans and stiff no out of which. Is he saying he identified this problem ran on it in two thousand sixteen and he thought. He's the exploiter of the reason why he was hiring hiring premises though, that he interviewed her new illegal been hired her anyway, but we do know what even I know knowing people in in in in the broader, whatever restaurant business, or this is how it's done under the table, fate numbers everything. Everybody knows speed. The service industry is not to be aware of that that that's how he's business offering those this. Of course, she's where those businesses are largely operated that way. But he also is aware that it needs to change that it's incredibly unfair. It's not example sample at home, why should any Benny ditch at once? Got all be once. He let's she was legal. He did not know she's a legal guarantee. She's gone now. I will quite now. That's the whole thing. Right. She's getting kicked out. But yeah. By the way, I mean, she should she should she's not illegal worker. She used counterfeit documents to ten jobs. The president is the victim in this. And one thing she's a very courageous person to come forward and speak about this issue courageous I'm bringing into hiking gruesome, Donald Trump is knowing this you will comparably lose her job, and maybe deployed courageousness. Into america. About hiring people who know that you you've been railing against in your campaign. That's not curry decided we hit pause for now. Thank you. Both good to see you both in person and next CNN uncovering you evidence of questionable ballots in North Carolina tonight allegedly to help the Republican candidate that of the North Carolina. Republican party is out front next to respond plus acting EPA administrator Andrew Wheeler today rolling back. Rules on the coal industry is the same. Andrew Wheeler who used to lobby for the coal industry that story."