Learning to program: The journey of Graham Cluley

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States you learned how to program by buying a magazine of local news and spending hours. Over the weekend, the bore ously type in the basic commands, and this is how I learned how to to program computers, and I loved it, and I started writing computer games for my friends. I actually began to write games which were in a way, a mixture of both. Programming and literature I got into. What's good interactive fiction will will come into the text adventure games, and after awhile I began celebrates text adventure games in those adventure games ended up on the front discs of. Magazines and I would say at the end of them. Look if you really liked the game. Why not send me five or ten quid, and all I'll help you get further in the game or something you map. And then one day. A package arrived on my doorstep from a Guy Code Allen Solomon. Played my games. And my life changed forever. I was misled. And inside the parcel, it had to check the twenty pounds, which is more than I have asked for and a copy of duct. Psalms antivirus talk it and a letter saying if you want a job, let me know. And, so I rang him up. and. I went for an interview and he gave me a job and I was his best effort. Windows program at. So few years I was writing songs, antivirus windows, but what they noticed was that I think actually I was at a particular show where we were launching the product, and I would see the sales people demonstrating my software my creation. I think they're not showing the good bits, and so I said No. You mind if I have a gun. And say they let me have a go on stage. And soon there was a bit of a crowd around as I explained and talk through my magnificent bit maps which are designed. So I think I sort of bullied my way. In time out of the programming department, so I made this great big jump. Over time I became more and more the public face of Dr. Solomon's talking to the press describing what was going on in the world of CYBERCRIME. Writing articles and generally just. do it doing tap dances effectively. And, then one sad day. The company got bought. and. Frankly I think I lost it about six weeks. After period of gardening leaf. I decided to go and join sauce vocal about half the salary, but three times the fun I wasn't involved in any of the programming US office, but I was involved in. The social media activity, and probably the primary thing of all was something which myself and criterion now co hosts a podcast with me smashing security We set up a block code naked security. At the time it was something a bit different to be honest when we launched it, there weren't many technology companies who writing every single day. About what was going on what was going on in terms of threats and trying to explain them in simple language, we were trying to explain these things in a in a way which. An intelligent child would understand because I always felt as being a problem. Where buy nerds speaking to other nerds and I. Don't think that's the solution to the cybersecurity problem I think we have to be able to communicate to everybody. Effectively I. My career now involves Brighton articles. Make Him podcasts and giving public presentations. that that's that's what I do. and. People. Thank! Goodness, interesting. I have to say Oh, how I say it and so they're asking me to keep doing that. I, wish I had gone independent sooner. Has Been An interesting new challenge and I? I wish I'd had the confidence to do that sooner. And to carve my own career is all kinds of changes because I'm basically a one man company Naum. Things like. Network. So much more important. That used to be I'm naturally quite introverted. If you've. If, I. Don't know you I'm quite quiet and shy in off high all hanging out in the kitchen or something I definitely let parties and things that he likes to be around. I'm good with the people I. Know, but I'm not good with he I time. And so I find myself events now and I push myself and say. Okay I. Don't know anybody here. Maybe, I should just go and chat to someone. Is Still. Twelve year old computer programmer inside me. It feels a little bit scared about doing that sometimes, but you know. Sometimes.

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