'Hollywood, The Sequel,' Episode 7: 'Rewriting Hollywood's Story' with Janet Mock

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Welcome to our podcast. It's where we asked some of the entertainment industry's brightest minds how Hollywood could and should reinvent itself, and so we asked Janet Mock House she would write the story of Hollywood's future. Her first industry job was on the FX series post she was hired by the series, Co Creator Ryan Murphy. The show explores New York, city's underground ballroom scene in the nineteen. Nineteen eighties and nineties. It features more transgender actors and regular roles than any scripted show in TV history and mock made history herself with pose becoming the first Trans Woman of color to write and direct TV episode. It wasn't just a great professional accomplishment pose represented a radically different view of the world. Then what mark saw growing up I know for my own experience as A. Black, poor child growing up in America who happened to come into conscious realizing. I'm Trans I grew up with all kinds of images of trans people that were not positive. I grew up with images of black people that were actually in the nineties. Quite positive. in those images emboldened, mean they change in shifted? What I thought was possible for myself and my own life. They gave me great sense of hope and escape. They told me probably unconscious ways that I wasn't even you know aware of as a twelve year old that my life matter and that I was deserving of taking up space and I know that having access to those images affect me. And allowed me to go out into the world and say that, I. Am deserving I am deserving of everything this world has to offer, and so for me also having my first job in Hollywood being on the ethics series, pose. Seeing. How when we cast five. Black Trans Women to play five Black Trans Women on screen that shifted the conversations about who should be seen in who should be heard and who's valued and I know too that that show has really not converted 'cause that's a wrote weird word. But that show has opened people's eyes to. The lives and the struggles and the sacrifices of specifically Black Trans Women and lgbtq people of Color. I have been stopped many times by mothers who say I you know, and these are six gender women. These are not transgender women. These are six gender women who have raised children who have said that Blanca is my hero and Blanca played by 'em. Jade. Rodriguez is a black trans woman who takes in basically lgbtq orphans who are kicked out of their own homes because of their parents intolerance, and so in that sense I know that in a world where there's There's not that many trans people. Most people says, Jenner, people do not have interaction with Trans People. But they can sit for an hour and invite these characters, these people into their homes and they can get an education. They can be inspired and enlightened and also entertained and want to spend time with people unlike them and so in that sense. Yes, I think our stories have great impact and the stories that this industry chooses to tell have great impact on how people think how they choose to interact and intervene. When say a Black Trans Woman is being. Taunted or harass a grocery store on the subway. That may be if they had exposure and fell in love with Blanca on pose that they would go in and say, that's not right when I spoke with Jen. Amok. After I'd done unconscious bias training at work. We thought and talked about how who we are like our race. Our gender unfailingly affects how we see the world, how other see us and shape our actions and it was still on my mind how those reflexive assumptions can perpetuate some of Hollywood's worst practices. So I asked mock for her take on a very personal level. I. Think that people tend to hire people that they're comfortable with not just not necessarily people who are unlike them, and so it's kind of rare for. A WHITE SIS gender straight person in power to necessarily want to hire people who are not straight who are not white in who are not six gender right, and so I know from me from my own experience, the way in which I was able to get into Hollywood. was through a wide six gender gay man who saw himself in me in my story as an outsider. Ryan. Murphy. Is someone who I know has shared experiences of filling has been being the only gay person in a room. One of the few hours, gay show runners at the time when he was starting out his career from popular and NIP Tuck he talks about the arguments that he had at that time he talks about. Having to fight for the characters and storylines and they told him, you know the characters just feel to gay he even though they were straight characters and so the fact that his worldview was constantly berated and sidelined and he had to fight for that over and over and over again, I think there was a point of him that when he was starting to work on pose, he realized that he necessarily wasn't. The person, the central voice for this show and that he needed to seek voices unlike him. And I think it takes a lot of work not just to. Realize that maybe you're not the best person to tell that story like that kind of conscious. I just think in this industry is still kind of not quite there and I, think that what fills different about this time is that for the first time, it seems as if white people are taking it upon themselves to educate themselves to do this kind of training into look around themselves into see who they're surrounded by at their workplace, and that alone should be like, oh, we need to shake this up and so the second part of that is is really cleaning house to a certain extent or expanding. Those roles to promote people within who have been there to see what

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