A highlight from David Nichtern: Unsheathing the Sword of Prajna (#127)

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Have you all here. I'm Daniel akin and welcome to tonight's episode of the wisdom doma chat. It's great to be back and especially because tonight we are joined by musician composer, producer and Buddhist teacher, David Nick turn. David is author of two books published by wisdom publication. Awakening from the daydream and creativity spirituality and making a buck. Tonight, we'll be talking about unsheathing the sword of prasna. Welcome, David, thank you for joining us. Thank you, Daniel. And hello, everybody out there. Nice to be with you. I wanted to let everyone know a little bit about the format tonight. So David and I will have our conversation about the topic. And then that'll last for about an hour. And then we'll have a question. And I answer session. So we'll have about a two minute 5 minute break. And then we'll come back and David will answer your questions. So the way you ask questions is there's a Q&A panel. I think everyone knows zoom by now. So Q&A panel at the bottom, you can enter your questions there. And actually, you can even start putting in questions now while we're having the conversation and we'll get to them at the end during the Q&A time. So thank you everyone for joining us again. And so David, so great to have you back here. A veteran of the wisdom podcast and wisdom damage had actually. And it's always fun. So tonight we're tackling interesting topic called progenitor and I thought we'd start with just talking about what that would is obviously a Sanskrit word. So what does that word actually mean for you? Yeah, well the first time I heard the word used the definition in English was discriminating awareness wisdom. And I feel the best words over time is discernment. That's my favorite word. Share up in Tibetan, right? Yes, shut up. So what does that mean in Tibetan? How would you translate it? You know, some people translate as knowledge, but then there's a problem because there's another word yashi. So sometimes it's sorry, some people translate as wisdom, but there's another word. Yeah. So sometimes it's translated as knowledge or wisdom. Like perfection of wisdom. You know this word protection wisdom shut out gear too chimpa. So in there, that's shut up. Yeah. And you could also say there's what we call ordinary praj know, which is the analogy I often use is knowing the difference between a Phillips head and a flathead screwdriver if you're trying to do something in. That's just ordinary discernment. And then there's what's called higher prajna, which is understanding how your mind works, how your emotions work how reality works. So I guess we could talk about both tonight and maybe maybe they're not as far apart as it might seem too. That's impossible. Yeah, that sounds great. So discerning wisdom, that's discernment. That's what assignment. So fill that out a little bit for me. Discernment. So you were mentioning there can be discernment of just ordinary things. But then it can be this higher type of discernment. What are you talking about when you talk about the higher discernment? Well, it could be as simple as knowing the difference between something that is harmful in something that is helpful. So for example, you might take heroin because you think it's helpful in some way. Yeah. Usually people think it's helping them in some way to relieve pain or suffering, but it actually causes further suffering in most cases. I'm not aware of any cases where that's actually been counted. So it's pretty universal. But that person developing discernment would go at a certain point they would say, well, this is not a good idea. How do I liberate myself from it? So higher project can lead to actions that are accurate clear and skillful. Accurate, clear and skillful. Yes. So there's this idea that knowing how to benefit others is a type of Prussia. Well, probably you could start even closer to home. Knowing how to benefit yourself. Yeah, and as you know, it's funny, oneself and others is, I guess language gives us a lot of dualistic framework, isn't it true, you know? And I always say that people one of the funny things about Trump perimeter, you know, my teacher was choking him tongue in, which when I asked him in the morning or something, how are you? And he said, it seems fine. Seems fine. Yeah, he didn't use the pronoun. Very often. Yeah. So of course, our pronouns and a lot of people are talking about pronouns these days and identify how we identify ourselves. So and that's praja. What is a clear use of language would be proud now? How language influences perception would be proud how perception influences decisions we make. So project is my favorite saying, I think you and I have talked about this before. This project of parameter or the practice of praja is the mother of all the buddhas. Love, love, love, love, love that comment. Like, I always want to meet people's mother right away if I can. Oh, I get it now. This is all making sense now. And so it means that it's an essential statement that the Buddhist tradition is not theistic. It's not there's no faith based. Ground for it. So if it says your mother is discernment and using a sharp edge of your awareness to see what's going on. And that's what gives birth to the enlightened situation. That's making a big statement. It's not saying faith is

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