Thriving in a time of uncertainty with Dr. Lynn Gribble


Today we have returning guests. Dr Lene Gruber who is one of Australia's founding coaches an accidental academic and an award winning author and university Electra. Lynn Kolzov a pragmatic futurist coach. She also helps people to future proof. They careers in an ever evolving workplace. Lynn is coming to us. Live to die from Sydney Australia. Now it's important to note as you record Saturday. Twenty first of March twenty twenty. It's fair decided on both sides of the world. We're living in completely uncharted waters here in the UK pubs clubs Churches Museums Cinemas. Theatres and schools are now closed. The government is just offered to pay up to eighty percent of workers wages while these companies have shut down and everyone I know is working from home and last night. The streets here in London would deserted. I've never lived through World War but many are saying this is a similar time highly and first of all. How are you and how your family are? They safe and healthy yet. Where all siphon health healthy I moved to working from harm From Tuesday of this last week We went live with everything we were doing in a virtual world from Monday so we did Chinese for Monday and so we're just practicing really good processes of you know keeping things clean making sure that everything that comes in the house is clean and kept clean and so it's all good for us that just for some context. Those didn't he lost your on season. One you'll university lectures explain way you lecturing lecturing so I work at the University of New South Wales which is one of the top universities in part of the group of universities in Australia and a we have the number one business school in Australia. And I'm part of that school and so we have a number of international students as well as local students. What about fifty? Seven thousand students on campus is full so This week we've made the decision to put all our lectures and everything online and work with students in a virtual space which is very exciting. Because I've been teaching online for sixteen years and I think that this may actually be the future will never wanted to have a study about the future work and lock. Y'All been working remotely for many years on the nomad. I just need Wi fi coffee in a flat surface. What's interesting a lot of my colleagues? That have been working at home first. Time actually help one of them like a monitor up of the stays the other day they finding it really really arresting to to work first of all on their own so mental health issues but also getting work done What tips could you give someone who has all of a sudden main told Guy Heim and wet from high and what? What are some things that can be doing to ease into this because it is very very uncomfortable environment? I'm sure a lot of papal use their workplace as pseudo family spice and I think that that's the first thing that we need to acknowledge that we spend a lodge amount of time at work and work as a very for many people social environment My pitch they looked at what happens to people when they get retrenched. And so I've heard all the stories of isolation and not being in the office at citrus. So the first thing that people need to do is recognize that just because you're used to having a lodge monitor. Aw traveling somewhere for work doesn't mean that that's what you need to do for the rest of you life. The second thing around this is that people often focus on what's different rather than focusing on. What's the same so you need to Cape? A routine routine is absolutely kate. If you think about how different for many people if they work say Monday Friday they will often find that on the weekend not aging at the same time then excising time than getting up at the same time so what going to. The office provides structure. And so if you can make a structure about being at home and tried to create the similar structure. You would have as if you're going to work so if you normally get up at seven you should normally get up at seven if you normally get up at six and go to the gym. Maybe your gym workout is now at home. There is so many great apps to be working at home. So and you can look at it harm Ryan shine whether it's forty degrees in Australia. Role minus four degrees in London. So the thing is created routine that you can replicate anywhere and this is one of the foundational things of being able to be flexible and work from anywhere. So one friend of mine was talking about Having to have facetime so a lot of these things are on voice coal and apparently They've also said well. Once a week we have to have quite facetime and now talking about how they then had to quit my cup on and and the hair and everything else Is this the right thing? Should WE FORCE PEOPLE TO BE PRISON? I was actually saying to them that probably after if this goes on for months we weren't k. What we look like in six months we will just go on with their hair. No makeup or whatever Just to to be present but is an important to see other colleagues. I mean I'm seeing lots of photos on social media of all these like the Brady Bunch squares all these people I why having and happy Let's fast forward six months. How will it look in six months when this is the new normal so actually connecting and however connecting works for you? If that's about seeing somebody if it's about texting somebody so if it's about being present you know I always remember when my daughter was quite young That I'd often ring a friend on Friday about five thirty and they also had small kids and we would havoc foreign conversation and share a glass of Wine and Sofa may the whole idea of virtually meeting up. I mean look here we are you and halfway around the world and this conversation wouldn't be that different. If we were in the same room the difference would be that we can see each other. If we really want to see each other now we could turn on a medium that would allow that. But I don't feel that are necessary and to your point about paypal feeling that you know. Do I put my Cup on? What do I get dressed or not now the the ritual of getting dressed into business? 'cause there's lots of studies that talk about when people dress casually they act casually so there is a really good rigor about getting up in the morning and getting dressed for work particularly if that's what you've always done and then overtime being careful that you don't start to become too casual and your work colleagues like you might treat your friends because there's a different set of engagement so it's not about whether you wear makeup or don't wear makeup where a social don't wear a suit. You should be dressed in a way that makes you feel professional so a lot of people where this falls down for them is that they would prefer to where they're jim gear. Twenty four seven and this is awesome. Why we he at New Moms? Say All you know. I just don't get dressed up anymore. I just don't feel like myself anymore and I say well I need dressing the way you were when you went to school when you went to work. And they say why. Don't need to and I GOTTA. You might be surprised how that affects your psyche. So there is a real thing about you know. Get up turn up show up you know and do these a way that makes you feel professional because clubs are often are Armagh to the world. Now I'm sure a lot of people whether they waking from home or freelancing. This is a time of uncertainty. And you said you. Phd cover these thriving in on uncertainty. Let's assume as the government is trying to tell us. This could last for months not weeks. How do we thrive in uncertain times like now the thing that happens with the human mind is that when we are uncertain we try and solve that problem we are problem solving being and so with uncertainty? What people try and do is imagine how to create certainty from the time? We're very little each have to think about what's the first thing they tell you with a young baby get in a routine so it knows what's coming next so it understands the system the passion the prosise so when we break those patents and processes people become very uncertain then they seek ways to create certainty. His thing I'd say to just about everybody today because a lot of people have asked me this week. You know you'll very happy and I go home happy as a clam because I had predicted that we would move to a work from home model and I had predicted we would do that around mid to late. February. So I'm a little bit out. I was a little bit ahead of myself but none the less. What we do know is is that for now. Most people who've got a job doing that from an isolation perspective. Whether that's at harm or distancing social distancing so that is annoying and that's not going to change for the foreseeable future now whether that's a couple of months many months or more than many months but it certainly isn't going to change in the next week or two so you can know physician that how you're setting up to work you should set it up so that you're comfortable to do this for an ongoing period and if that's a couple of months or more than a couple of months that should be arcade don't make do instead of make it what you want it to be for that. Focus on all the things that you know. So if you've got a job you know what that job looks like how you go about. It might change. But the job itself hasn't changed. Your family hasn't changed. Your living situation. Haven't changed so focusing on what you know rather than what you know and keep your mind coming back to. I know these when somebody says what about this darn dwelling the. I don't know because as soon as you go there you'll mind will try and solve it so focus on it. Make a list of all the things you do know and when somebody says what about the actually what I do know is this and keep talking about we know and focus on what you know and what you can anchor

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