Chicago, Dr Pierre Johnson, Malibu discussed on 790 KABC Programming
Hanging out listening isn't fascinating story. We're talking about at as very fascinating commemorating black history month, we have Dr Pierre Johnson, Dr Joseph semi-in, and Dr maxima, dear pulse, of perseverance. The website is a pulse of P three dot com. And just before the break, they each told us of their story of overcoming the odds against all odds. And when we talk about odds, and I'll ask max this. Is it true that only five percent of all doctors in this country are African American and if so why is it such a low percentage when the actual population is a little bit higher than that. Oh, I'm glad you asked. Will the thing is it is true. But that number four days a year. As recently as two thousand fifteen percent, twenty sixteen or one or two I think it went up to six percents. Now. To two thousand seventeen percent. So. The numbers are essentially staying the same even though African Americans make associate percent of the population. Now your question as to why there's a multitude of factors. One of one of those factors is a Sawai. That's ties into why the majority of persons of the social order persons, just call it. Well, they're all historical factors that play into that. Let's say you, you take away all the historical factors when you talk about education in general. We wonder why the old so many seats in so many persons of color at these high levels of achievement for success. It starts at the basic level when it comes to acquiring the necessary knowledge skills. That's what choir to pass highly stated is if your institution has access to the best features resources the best books quite naturally. If you're a driven person your odds of successful is much higher much. Someone who comes from middle class to powder state where they don't have access right? And so when we talk about equality in America. I think in this post racial society. We're still doing work out whether or not things are affordable, and the slogan we hear from our politicians will leave child behind won't. That's not what's actually going on. David has a history of reading history. If people don't ask three that has never been the case. So that when you talk about five percent that's one percent. But we believe five percent remains low, and we can also. Because even with ourselves when people get to read the book, they'll see that even highly driven and hard working people were high. Oh. Almost kept us out of medical school. And even when we were in medical school. We still had some struggles still has passing knows the camps that doesn't come from lack of watching or lack of intelligence comes from lack of. We get to some of those higher levels. So they're all the glass Felix that are placed people, particularly whether whether or not race has to do with it, but access of preparation in order to achieve some of the highest levels of academic success that starts to be quite honest with you. Pre school and the grade school level. I've I've worked with a chemist. I I've worked with the chemist Michael Wizner, and he has done. He's done tests where in the poor neighborhoods. You find schools with lead paint in them, you find apartments with lead paint in them and lead is known to actually lower your cue because you are not able to think and in the neighborhoods where there's more money that paint has been taken out the chemicals in the in the in the schools have been taken out in most not Malibu, they're filled with toxins, but I do you think that has anything to do with it as well. And do you know about that this Joe speaking know that might be one study or some subset of information that could be placed out there. However, it's way more than that. You know, I agree with you on that. It's one of those things number one is is if you go by anything. Right now, they don't necessarily have made any. So this could be something that was from previous, no doubt. But with the main focus would be is the the system and in the school system in particular in what these kids are actually exposed to that will determine how the level of success. And that's one thing that pulse. A person dressed what we abolish without changing the dynamics on their exposure. And and uplift and many people to do. Himmler took we're doing so that, you know, the low numbers that they have of African Americans and actually med school. Don't become a a nominee, but it becomes the norm. Even the and you can just piggyback on that. 'cause we look at that number that five percent number. And they, you know, if you look at that number they say black and the black number that falls umbrella falls into anybody of African descent, whether they're in this country or not, but if you actually look at the raw numbers of African Americans that are there are making it into it's even less than that. It's it's it's alarming lean shockingly even lower than that just all jumped in together by which is adding does there need to be some focus on affirmative action programs for admission into schools, or do you think that it's adequate at this point? Well, I'm more importantly, this is here, and I think even more importantly than Dan affirmative action is actually putting the resources. So the kids can actually be on the same playing field is not giving a handout and say, okay. Well, we have to lower the bar to get these kids in there. It's actually, you know. Putting you know educated teachers and teachers they care actually putting the resources into the school. Like, I talked about in the book the year before medical school. I had absolutely no training. I I couldn't get a job with a biology degree. My only resource was to go and be a substitute teacher. And in that year. I went into a school in the heart of Inglewood in Chicago. And on my second day, they gave me a classroom for the rest of the year and mind you while I'm in that classroom. I had students from eleven years old to sixteen years old in the same classroom behavior as well as learning disabilities. There were no there. There were no consistent books. I have like multiple different types of books that I have to teach these kids with no less than plants in no skills. Now, I'm in classroom with these kids were not only, you know behavioral, but also deficiency now, and I'm talking to teach them, and this is happening all over, you know, in Chicago, and CDs like this and we're expecting these. Kids to compete with kids that not only have all their books have computers in the classroom. But also, go home have you know, lawyers and positions and things in the house like you have to set the bar. So that, you know, kids have the opportunity to be able to to achieve these high levels of success. You know, you make a good point when you talk about the limitations of affirmative action plans because it like you say handout, or whatever that is you're talking about an unequal education system. And when he talked about an education system, you're talking about funding and you're talking about money..