Listen: Nancy Pelosi, Representative Cortez, Donald Trump discussed on Tony Katz Today
"Eight three three God, Tony eight three three four six eight eight six six nine I usually try and move into some some other stuff, but I wanted to get into a part to about this conversation about the green new deal because there was a really interesting response from Nancy Pelosi. In in in this. In the aftermath of this green new deal. And what she told politico. Is that? It will be one of several or maybe many suggestions we receive the green dream or whatever they call it. Nobody knows what it is. But they're for it. Right. What does what does that mean? Green dream. She doesn't know what they call it. This Nancy Pelosi the speaker of the house throwing shade. At Cortez on Thursday. She she changed that quite frankly haven't seen it. But I do know it's a disaster. And we welcome all the enthusiasm. That is out there. Well, what does that mean? And it it comes to this. Interesting question. About whose party is it. I mean, there's a question to be asked about this. Joe Scarborough on MSNBC. Saying that right wing commentators continue obsessively reporting on Cortez and claiming she reflects the consensus of the Democrats nonsense. It is it is Nancy Pelosi's party full stop. Now. I won't disagree that people do obsess about Representative Cortez. But is it Nancy's party? Let me bring in Leland veterans of Fox News right now you catch him Saturdays noon to two Sundays one to a right there on Fox News. You should make sure that that they have that they're on on your cable box. And there is an interesting conversation to be had about whose party it is. There can be no doubt. That Nancy Pelosi is the the iron fist. She was able to put down any insurrection about her becoming speaker. But all the attention goes to Representative Cortez. So which is it. Great question. We're gonna ask day cellini tomorrow part of house leadership whose party it is. And who were they taking orders from my history does not repeat itself it rhymes and one could ask themselves in twenty sixteen twenty seventeen. What was the Republican party? Was it the party of Paul Ryan was it the party of Mark meadows who was the party of Donald Trump? Everybody has gone through the vacillations an and every party asked to answer for the most radical among them. The question is who gets to decide the policy, and at least with a thin majority in the house or majority, but of the Jordy and the house that is subject to the whims of a gorge progressive block. I can't afford to nor the most radical among them you ask what she throwing shade at allegation cortege with the green. Dream. Well. Maybe that was made me maybe throwing shade. But maybe it was sending a message of. Hey, this is a dream and letting the more moderate of the Democratic Party, meaning the big donors and suburbanites. You don't wanna have there been? Dan, you've taken away from them. Hey, you know, this is a great idea. But it's a concept rather than an exact proposal a one one could think to themselves. It kinda sounds like that concept that some guy floated in two thousand fifteen we're going to build a big wall and Mexico's gonna pay for it. Yeah. But that's the fundamental difference differences. You can actually build the wall talking to Leland bittered, a Fox News. I I've always said that, you know, Cortez is not the problem the political, right? She's Nancy Pelosi's problem how to manage that and to Labe representivity event and Representative Ilhan, Omar, and this whole grouping of people in we thought that, you know, maybe a speaker Pelosi attractive manage it by she created this climate change committee, and she kept Representative Cortes off that committee. But this proposal as you described as the best way to do it because it's a resolution, it's not even a Bill. Is there a conversation? Even though it's been endorsed by numerous democratic presidential candidates is their conversation about how they turn this piecemeal into some kind of reality. Does your point? Maybe two point more. It seems as though she's making it very clear that is more of a dream that it is a reality. Remember in politics, things more. So the wall has become the big beautiful concrete wall is become a big beautiful chain steel slide sense, which is now become gene in only certain areas, which is become a few billion dollars to study in certain areas. So before we get rid of, you know, every internal combustion engine and every airplane, and every cow does what cows do we're going to the Democrats will start one would expect they would getting tougher on it missions and climate change standards, etcetera etcetera, that's politics. That's what they're going to. Propositions all we start off in the sort of radical ways move to the center, that's politics. What is interesting. I think is how you're pointing. Tony Nancy Pelosi is probably realising Democrats, privately that you talk to realize that had some members tell me this that Cortez and Eliane Omar and others are really the problem for them because rather than spending time trying to enact moderately progressive proposals. They're having to run to the center and away. From the craziest proposals, Allah, renew, LA, limited, etc. Talking to Leland bittered of Fox News. And to that, let's talk about some of those other things. Of course, we have the state of the union gosh, it seems like a million years ago. It was just this week. Like a million years ago? Like living in dog years. Right. It really truly is. And I was expecting much more direct talk about the wall about the funding of the wall things like that. From the present day. It was a much nicer kinder, and certainly a tremendous amount of uplift to the state of the union. Where are we because I had this conversation with Christina Walter yesterday? And he was under the belief that maybe you will see some money come from the Democrats for the wall. Are we going to see a deal before this thing expires in another week? Quite possible. And what is is you? We've talked about many times that the rule number. One of Trump is Trump always declared victory. That's a couple of billion dollars for a reinforced fencing, okay? Declare victory. We're building the wall and Democrats. And so we stood up to Trump, and we're not going to give him a dime for his wall. Okay. And then the voters get to decide who's telling them the truth in the and the in the democratic constituency will say, well, we won our people stood up and the President Trump's constituents go what you want who who prides the Democrats, the great negotiation and was the master dealmaker and got his wall. Now practically you didn't even get a change in the southern border. No. No. No. You want to end your legal immigration. You've put in either affi- okay for mandatory verify for employers. So they're not gonna hire people in shocking. We'd all these people are going to get the message. Hey, if I come across your legally, I could get a job and have a better life, which is what I want. And therefore, I'm not gonna come. Producer Arias shaking his head in agreement with you, and you're not gonna get me to be opposed to more used to be verifying going after employers who who hire people who are here illegally. But everybody getting a win. Everybody's saving face. That's that's always par for the course. I'm not saying, no. But it seemed to me that the the win for the Democratic Party was saying no at all costs and not giving Trump any wiggle room to claim a victory. So he's is. Okay. The win for the Democratic Party looking towards twenty twenty. I do. The issue that they know they face is. Suburban voters specially suburban women. So we're gonna women care about immigration now, they don't want to build a crony and war. They don't like this idea of this big imposing wall, and they don't like the idea of walking in pages and separating families. That's too much for them. But they sort of like the idea of more secure border. Seventy percent. Eighty percent of America agrees with that idea. Okay. Now, they just how to do it. But Democrats realized that they have to be able to allow their presidential candidate come October twenty twenty campaign on I'm gonna keep you safe. I agree and having a secure border look region. Chuck Schumer, and Barack Obama, etc. All voted for border security, it polls. Well, so Democrats have to be able to do that. And if they are opposing border security at all costs. Well, that's not gonna do very well in November when the presidential candidate has to defend that so they're giving presidential candidate some wiggle room in some cover by giving up a couple of billion dollars not wall. And everybody's gonna agree. It's not for a wall. So they get to say, no wall. They the same care about the border. Even though they've already got members on on record saying they don't really care about the border. I'll get into that. With you another time talk to me about what you're going to have this weekend on the show. Davis is a weenie to ask you about the issues of of the green, Luke. Is it a dream? We're gonna ask about this issue about whether this is the party of Nancy Pelosi Alexander house you Cortes in what Democrats are worried about national security issues by co anchor weekend bachelor. Unfortunately, we lost. We lost Leland's found. You should check it out. It is noon to two on Saturdays. One two on Sundays that is the one and only Leland vineyard on Twitter. VIP T RT is where you find him the first rule of Trumpism is Trump wins. But we shouldn't somehow think that's not also the first row."