Wilbur Wright, Glenn Curtiss, Secretary discussed on WFTL Programming


Florida's talk and entertainment networks, I'm Regan. Smith, Michael Yaffe, very special guests this day is historian and author William Hazel grove is brand new book. Right brothers wrong story. A Wilbur Wright solve the problem of man flight from premier Theus books is available at all the fine bookstores around Florida and places like Amazon dot com, and I'm Bill. Thank you so much for being with us this day. We know that you have a very busy schedule. And I wanna talk for a couple of minutes about those that that period one thousand nine hundred nineteen three the Wright brothers went through a from Mendez argument and alone term fight with people like Glenn Curtiss. And the amazing thing is the. We think it's revered today. Anyways, the Smithsonian institute, I should be, you know, but they got into a horrible fight with the Smithsonian, and I want to share that story. Sure, Glenn Curtiss was one of those mechanics that we have some the early twentieth century. Remember that's a mechanical age we live in a digitally Curtis. Crave. Guy starts building Motors makes first motorcycle day starts going Motors for airplanes. He approaches the Wright brothers and Curtiss believe that you know, when you discover something it's there for the taking. Okay. The Wright brothers they flew. They get a patent saying nobody else can find less. You pay us to use our control system Curtis is very upset about this because he can't manufacture airplanes. And so he has to try and break their patent, Kanye Langley. Samuel Langley's secretary of the Smithsonian. He was supposed to be the guy who saw flight, but he gets fifty thousand dollars from the government and put makes a plane that goes right down, the Potomac Salinas disgraced Langley's disgrace. Okay. But Glenn Curtiss says, you know, what I think that plane could have flown that plane from nineteen zero three secretary, Elaine. He takes it changes it and makes it fly. Again. This is Sonia. Looking for a way to get rid of this black Mark on the reputation publishes, the findings and says, you know, what the Wright brothers me of phone I but secretary Langley invented the first plane, and they put it in. This was Sonian with this big black saying this well, oracle Wilbur status point Orville furious. He says you retract that you retract or I'm going to send the nineteen or three fire away, which is an Athenian. Once he says, I'm going to send it away. They call his bluff and in nineteen twenty eight he packed up the nineteen or three fire fluent Kittyhawk indicates on a scheme or it goes over to London to the Britain science London science museum, boy stays for twenty years, and this controversy rages during this time getting Charles Lindbergh involved, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who plead with horrible. To bring the plane back. Hey, says absolutely not it goes on so long that the battle of Britain breaks out the plane is in London. Now, here's the great irony of this the liftoff of the German air forces. Flying overhead bombing the nineteen zero three flyer with a very technology the Wright brothers developed, so they have to ship the plane out of Britain. And they put it out in town called Covington underground to ride out the war. So was this Smithsonian wrong? Then about what they put on that being the first plane, invented absolutely absolutely Sonian was trying to rehabilitate their reputation, and they saw this in Glenn Curtiss was trying to break the patent by say look somebody else. Did it first? So come lose. Right. But they weren't we hear now a lot of the sunny and and Curtis, and so the, and this is where it gets really interesting. They they're like, you know, you must retract you have to say that you lied, and it's this Sony and says. Now, remember, our friend Fred Kelly biographer well in nineteen forty two this. This thing is at an impasse, and Fred Kelly or won't let him publish the book. Fred Kelly says to himself, you know, what I'm gonna get horrible right in my dad, and I'm gonna solve this dispute that FDR and Lindberg and nobody can solve. And so she goes to guy named Abbott. Who's now the new secretary of Smithsonian? He says, you know, what I'm going to publish a book in my book. I'm going to say all the crappy things that have happened. What you've done, and and everybody's gonna Sony and backs off publishes a retraction saying, you know, what the plane really then fly and the right been event the first plane, and then Orval writes a letter that goes into his well that says the plane can go to Sonian, but if you ever say anybody else, flew, I we're gonna take it back so Dizon and forty eight and then it's active. That that the plane finally comes back to the United States and its push Charles Lindbergh's spirit, Saint Louis back and put it in the nineteen or three flyer. It takes years of death and arguing an aging for this finally to get resolved at this gusts museum that we still reveres the I just I guess I'm having a hard time getting my mind around don't eat. Really? So the the legacy of all this. Did Wilbur understand that he had finally won at the time? He died. Because I believe it or not after they flew in nineteen. Oh, three. Nobody believed him. You know, the Dayton newspapers said basically, oh, he flew for fifty nine seconds for fifty nine minutes. It'd be a story. But the fact is nobody believed him it gets even worse. We can't get a patent approved. So he goes totally secret. He won't let anybody see him fly. You think somebody's gonna take his technology? So then the newspaper start, you know, printing, stuff like fliers or liars. And you know, it all the way it goes all the way up to about nineteen eight in France. We're finally the French French by his airplane, the military does. And then he flies figure eights and people all over Europe, you're astounded, and then he becomes a world celebrity. So and by the way, everybody recognizes Wilbert this point as the man who invented flight, but when he dies in nineteen twelve from typhoid fever. Unfortunately, he's in the thick of lawsuits with Glenn Curtiss who's been taking their technology, and he's been worn down by the real money doesn't come until much later gets millions of dollars for this in the nineteen forties. So really Wilbur sheet. It's sort of a tragic story. He died fighting legal battles to try and protect us invention. So isn't it true? That in the nineteen twenties in the nineteen thirties that Europe was starting to sort of head of America when it comes to aviation inventions in do you think that had something to do with the fact that Wilbur died absolutely will what have people in aviation? We're very mad at the right brothers because they got what was called a pioneer patents. So it's the triad system will control aileron rudder elevator. And it said anybody who flies has to pay them. So what did they do it push down on Aviation Development in the United States so much? So that when World War One broke out we were behind everybody, and it was all because of this patent because a lot of people one developed planes because they thought they had to pay the Wright brothers. Eventually we'll step in and changes and create a patent pool where people can use the technology, but this really slowed down aviation the United States and during that time, you know, Europe went went on, you know, the the the history of the flyers interesting because. In nineteen fourteen. It was almost a story with a big flood in Dayton where it came rushing in the water came rushing in and the flyer was in a shed behind the bike shop, and it was under water. You know, Orville just manage to pull it out and dry it out and the nicotine, but it was almost lost. So that goes a long way towards explaining how it was that your gut so far ahead of us in Aviation Development during those years. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because they had no impediment impediments rather to you know, developing the net next technology and the rights, by the way, they were very good. Rather win was very good at developing that initial technology, but they he wasn't so good at refining that so their planes were known as something hard to fly. And it's one gentleman said, you know, flying in those days, so it's like flying with an elephant on your back. You had no power. They were unstable, and you know, very difficult to fly. So what is the main thing that you want people who are reading this book to take away from it? Well, I think two things one I wanted to make these people human, you know, there's a lot in the book that we haven't talked about one is it did have a girlfriend that was eventually discovered by a gentleman thirties when he walked in on him and his secretary either Edith Benham, but either back rather. He knows I guess is that you know, that people big inventions being moments, generally, speaking, do not happen with pain. So people it is the individual who has to make these discoveries. It's the individually on pen like Ford who who push the technology had an push human improvement. They're the ones that you generally making these breakthroughs, and so it's not so strange that I discovered Wilbur Wright was really the person who did it because it takes your vision. He also had that God given ability to take engineering, you know, what was going on at the time. And this involves with something called wing warping. You know, he really is the crux of all planes that flies where the wings actually flex. We. Call him ailerons today. That's a slap on the wings. Is he on jetliners Wilbert came up with that he came up with the fact that if you flex the wing one way and the other way that the plane would turn and they'll, unfortunately, we're going to have to leave that story. There. But we want to say again, thank you for being with us this day, the book is right brothers wrong story, a Wilbur Wright, solve the problem of manned flight, William Hazel grove is author Prometheus books the publisher it's available at all the fine bookstores around fraud and places like Amazon dot com, and it proves once again history may not be exactly as we think it is if somebody will bother to go out there and do some digging and look for the truth in a hard way. 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