Listen: Giants, Barclay, Ronin discussed on Tony Paige Show
"And by boxer resorts, the wonder of it all the Tino ever talked to in a while. He joins us right now. Paul. How are you? Here's been a long time people thought that you and I had a falling out. I kept telling them not no good. It just doesn't happen in a few weeks. He's been on vacation, and you know, that kind of stuff, and then I get it. I get it. Yankees time though. This. Akis have done. Now. Unfortunately, some people might say the same thing about the giants is that true. The guy. Yeah. I guess I guess it is you know, I tell you. I'll tell you one thing, you know, it. It's rough obviously to watch this team underachieving like they are and and putting forth struggling, but I think the the compounding of last year's three win season. And then putting this right on the back of it. I think that's really what's got the cauldron burning with a lot of fans, and I understand the frustration. And and the the anguish I'll have to go through this right off the heels of of what was just you know, the worst season in franchise history. It's it's a bit of pill for a lot of folks to swallow was the injuries. Look like coming off the eagles game. It looks like they were actually pretty good shape. I mean, a Ronin actually played really well in in his first game back coming off of that high ankle sprain. It's certainly took long enough. They they were hoping maybe even come back two weeks earlier. He started to pick up his workload. And then in each of those previous two weeks on the Friday before the game they had to pull them back and then shut them down. And so it turned out. He couldn't go until finally playing Philadelphia this past Thursday. And I thought he played well, he probably was the highest great defensive player on the field for the giants that night on on a night that obviously did not go well for them. But but he certainly played well, and I think moving forward. You know, if they're ever gonna do anything to climb out of this whole somewhat and get to any level of respectability burns could have to be a big part of that pass rush because without him in the lineup. Becher had called ten percent. Fewer blitzes and pressure packages that he had called when he was the defensive coordinator in Arizona. So it wasn't just that Ronin was a missing piece on that defense, and you were giving extra snaps to Lorenzo Carter and encounter Baldwin inquiry. Martin the bigger problem was a bet you had to throw out a few chapters of his playbook because he did not have his keynote pass rusher on the field that in itself should be a big help to them. Let me ask you about about a Beckham with in news all the time. Did the giants you get to fill the giants regretted signing them. I mean, I know he's a great ball player and all that but keeps his mouth shut during the goes. And then he just goes off was he signs a contract. Is there any regrets? You think I don't think? So right now, I think you know, at this point in time. The everything is magnified when you lose Nonni, we've all heard the saying athletics that winning is the greatest band aid. Well, you know, the giants were five and one instead of one in five I don't think that him getting old picked off at himself and trying to motivate himself, and you ranted up and down the sideline would get nearly the play that it's getting now. But because they are what they are everything. He does he I think if he has an untied shoelace somebody's gonna make a headline out of it. Right now, you see him. You see it lasted in the length of his contract. Oh, you know that that's a heck of a question to ask at the moment. Because I don't know. I don't know that I can give you a real answer. I think a lot of things come into play with that. Hey what status? The giants are going to be in over the next several years. You know, is it going to be a total rip down and rebuild? Is it going to be where they continue to try to tweak like they did this year? Will they have at some point in time during Beckham's contract have found the next legitimate starting quarterback? Or are they going to go through a period of quarterbacks? I think all of those things contribute to what will happen to him. In addition to the economics of his contract now, where we're by you know, what the salary cap, you know, there are certain accelerations and penalties when you wind up getting rid of a guy too early before his contract is over. So there are a lot of factors that would go into answering that. Question. Even if you wanted to be some type of you know, saucer and look into the crystal ball. I I don't think it's just as simple as saying. Well, you know, was his attitude gonna blow up to the point where they've got to get rid of them that that would only be one of many angles to the prism. If you truly want to try to logically answer that question. Now, what he thought of his partner in crime against is because he has got to get him the ball, but how many game? We hit a coach. Getting rid of he's a quarterback, but he's not playing. Well, how many games does he have before he can write himself? Totally. I I see he played poorly against Philadelphia the other night. There's no question, and I don't think he played better than mediocre against Dallas outside of those two games. The other four games. Manning actually played very well. And I know the coaches great at them highly. So I think there's a misconception out there by the Eli haters, and certainly the quick baiters wanna make a big headline out of Eli to tell you. He's not having a good season. Really good games one mediocre game and one poor game. I think a lot of quarterbacks would sign up for that. Unfortunately as a quarterback, he's the magnet for all. The problems wanna team only has one victory. So I think that's the first thing. I would say to your statement is that I don't necessarily agree that he that he's not playing. Well, he's had one really bad game. The second part to your question is this the giants made a horrible mistake last year when they never got Davis Webb on the field. Now that was the previous regime, obviously, Jerry Reese, and Ben mcadoo a gone, they mishandled that whole thing. They bungled a terribly. I think if the giants continue to slide, no matter. How will we like playing if they continue to slide, and they are just in the in the total quicksand I at some point in in mid-november into early December. And they already game where they're down by three touchdowns in the fourth quarter or the Dow by seventeen points in the fourth quarter without shopping Eli especially if he's playing if he's playing okay, but but things are falling apart around him. You've got at least at that point. Look at giving little letter some snaps, and and you have to prepare him now in practice for the possibility that he may get some looks at the end of the season. But if that happens, I would think it's got to be made in conjunction with a conversation that manning has what the coach with the GM with the ownership, and they have to have an understanding that hey, you know, what he like it's not that you play in horribly, but the team is in a pickle here. And we gotta find out a little. About this rookie moving forward. And by the way, we think you're going to be a starting quarterback next season in two thousand nineteen and there's no sense in getting you injured. So why don't we preserve what you may have left for next season? And at the same time get a look at what will let us got. So I could see those circumstances possibly coming into play. But other than that. I don't think I don't think we'll letters going to get into a game unless that type of scenario comes to fruition. Talking to pull the giants for us coming off the loss to the eagles. The thing about Barclay. I wanted to get into is he seems like one of those backs that can make things happen. And you know, the line makes them a whole that's fine. If not you'll find one for himself. Remind me a little bit of Roger Craig when he had a thousand yards rushing and a thousand yards this evening. He seemed like he can do Davidge all over the place. Yeah. He's a true magician. Tony I'm gonna go back further than that. You know, I'm gonna date myself here. But you remember when Bill Mitchell of the colts was was playing for Jones, and he led the NFL I in receiving in nineteen seventy four Cordova seventy balls and he was yard rusher. And then in nineteen seventy five Chuck foreman with Fran tarkenton in the Minnesota. Vikings led the NFL and receiving back to back years. It was the breakout of the running back becoming a significant part of an NFL passing attack. Those were the two forerunners forefathers who did it live Bill Mitchell and Chuck forming and that of course over the years. Many other guys became part of that class the Roger Craig's the Thurman Thomas is the market challenge, and we can go on and on and on. And name those kinds of guys up certainly at this point, Christian McCaffrey, Alvin Kamara and saquon Barkley that's the next generation that belongs in that clash Buckley's truly magician and anybody who who has seen him play, especially in person. I just like I pop and jaw drop at the amount of talent and skill. This guy has it is such a package. He's got the moves and the quickness and the dukes of David negative, but the size in the frame of Rodney Hampton that should scientifically be impossible. He's able to do it. He's quite the player. I worried. Defense is just key on him and punish him to take him out of the giants offense. Well, there's no question that has he continues to move forward. And and become such a significant part of what they do teams will do thanks to try to scheme him like they have scheme Beckham. Obviously, I they'd be foolish not to. But the thing about it is right now the giants offensive line is just not doing very well run blocking. So they haven't had to do anything special to stop Barclay because the giants lead the league in Russia's for negative yardage because Barkley is almost always getting contacted behind the line of scrimmage when he takes her hand off. And it's only because of his pure natural ability in magic that he's able to come up with a four yard run after being contacted three yards in the backfield. It's truly amazing what he'd been able to do. I I was just talking the other day to. Banks. I say Carl Frank about this. And I I would say I love Joe Morris. Don't get me wrong. Why should grow? You put broccoli behind. You nineteen Eighty-six suburbanites big blue offensive line. Luckily runs for three thousand yards, ma'am. I wanted to ask you a Janis topic for you mentioned Barclay and what a bruising running. He is."