Doctor Debbie white, groomer Joey velani, news director Laurie Brooks, and now here are your hosts. How Abrams and Judy Francis. Get this. Burt Ward will be joining us. Is that someone else named Bert Warner? Is it the bird ward? This is Robin from Robin. Robin. That's the real Robin now. It is the real Robin. Nothing that came after was the real Robin, the real Robin joining us today. Bert, apparently, is rescuing very large breeds of animals or dogs. Should I say? He's been doing it for quite a while and you know he started out with great Danes. I remember years ago, so I guess he's just doing all big dogs now, not just great things. What do they call those the giant? Gentle giant gentle giants. Yes. Oh, cool. Okay, so we'll speak to him today before the show is out. I also see we're going to talk a little bit about klepto cats. I saw you surfing a video yesterday of cats that would steal stuff. It's so funny to watch them. Those videos, I believe were the inspiration for a book that's just come out called the secret life of Mac and it talks about a klepto kitty. Is that your bat phone? It is, but it's a false alarm. I'm patiently waiting for a phone call. I'm waiting to hear news of my little girls anesthetic procedure. She's having a dental cleaning and she's having a scoping of her bladder and her vaginal area. So you don't do these procedures yourself. Not on your own dog. Okay, I get that. I'm a mama. I can't do it to my baby. So my husband does it. You guys obviously think different about that. So yes, you're waiting for a call on your bat phone. From your husband. And we're waiting for a call from Batman's sidekick. How cool, it's meant to be thing today. It is. Lori, what are you working on for the news this hour? Oh, I'm going to tell you why. This caught me by surprise. Why some police dogs, in fact, a lot of them could be losing their jobs soon. I hate to hear that. Oh, wow. Yeah. Okay. Joey, what are you working on? Well, I got a letter that I want to read. Someone's dog has some dry itchy skin. How we can help solve that problem. Hey Mike, how you doing? Hi, hi, Doc. I have a couple of questions. I have a 12 year old Labrador. Experiencing some well, I've been diagnosed with some elbow arthritis and he's been getting real wobbly walking. Okay. So the slightest little divot in the grass, you could literally almost fall over. Okay. Is that on the front end or the back end or both? Well, the elbows have seemed to be the limping, the pain, the rear legs, don't seem to be painful. They just seem to be loose, you know, wobbly. And short walks are about that already can do now. So I've tried I've tried a little remedial had no effect. I tried to make a cam. I didn't see anything either. I've been given them an aspirin or so every other day. That seems to be the best. And then I've been giving them the liquid glucose to mean controversy high potency in its drive-through. Okay. Yeah, I'm just worried that using pain. I don't know how to tell. Yeah, and that's a great question because it is hard to tell with osteoarthritis when a pets in pain, because a lot of the gradual signs kind of mimic that of just getting old and it's very easy to just say, well, just getting old, that's why he's doing that. But if we're noticing that he's having trouble getting up and down from a lying position, if he does have some muscle loss or unsteadiness in the back legs, that can be associated with arthritis, but there can be some other causes. There. So if he seems wobbly, I would look for explaining this by arthritis, but there still could be some other spinal disease or other neurologic things that could be going on causing an unsteadiness in the back end. So we might have some success with some pain management, but I kind of wanted to keep my eyes open that we're not missing anything else. That's more than just arthritis here. So you mentioned a couple of the good non steroidal pain remedies that we use remodel, Medicare. I don't use aspirin anymore. It's got such a long withdrawal time and causes GI ulceration for animals. So if those prescription ones didn't do the job, look at doing some different things. I heard on this morning on the radio I heard a lady using your recommended to use an aquarium that was another one I guess. Oh, the adequate, yes, yes. And that was actually one of the things I was going to mention, because even the liquid glucosamine, great thing to try. I have tried recently a product that has not just glucose amine, but also has avocado extracts. It goes by a brand name called das Quinn and they come in a little chews and I had some good success with some patients on that that have been on glucosamine. And we just haven't seen quite enough results. But that is something check with your veterinarian for you. I don't think you'll find that in the general market. But yes, a prescription? It's not necessarily a prescription, but it's just a veterinary line. It's a nutraceutical. So it's kind of a supplement, but it's kind of in the food form. But it is, like I said, it's usually a veterinary brand, so it's just not sold at Costco or at the pet stores. And then yes, the adequate, which can be very helpful to help keep that joint healthy, helps to prevent enzyme degradation in the joint. And a lot of people, we have to give it by injection. That's the only thing that kind of puts some people off. But I've actually trained many of my clients to give these injections at home. And once we get through that initial period of twice a week for several weeks, they may give a shot once a month or every couple months, and it can kind of help. Give them a little more get up and go and comfort when we're talking about dealing with this chronic painful condition. So yeah, I wouldn't hesitate to look at that. And for many people, we'll also look at fish oils and just like people who have heart disease and arthritis, it has some benefits about decreasing inflammation in the body. And for animals, we can use that as well in that same way. So that's another alternative. I have been giving him fish oil, the omega, you know, fish oil, the high potency ones with his food. Are those antiquated injections? Are they done in the in the area of the pain? Or are they just done in the loose part of the skin? Good question. They're just given anywhere in the loose skin. And we used to have to give this in an intramuscular injection, which meant the veterinarian had to do that. But yeah, anywhere we can give a subcutaneous injection on the back on the hip area anywhere up through the back area. We can give that. And it's really easy to do in most pets take to it very well. So yeah, that might be something if you're comfortable with the needle thing and you're not a little needle shy. I look into that. Mike, we appreciate your call today. I know you're a new listener in Los Angeles. Let's take one for doctor Debbie. We have Robert on the phone. Welcome to the show, Robert. What's going on? I don't know. I can barely hear you. Take your hand off the speaker on your phone. Hold it, hold it on either side there. Your mother, let me take off the Bluetooth dance. Hold on. They're supposed to help us out, but I can't get mine to work. Okay. There's always trouble. Okay, can you hear me now? Yeah, what's going on? Oh, okay, my key to when the last two weeks, he started to bleed after she used the restroom. Now the blood is in the urine now. And well, she had a problem when she was one year old. And they found out she had a weak liver and they put on that LD prescription diet and I was trying to figure out if she had an affection or just