Dr Barry Taff, Ucla discussed on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory


Welcome back Dr Barry Taff holds a doctorate in psycho physiology with the minor and biomedical engineering is our world renowned para psychologist he's worked out of UCLA's former parapsychology lab from sixty nine through seventy eight and as I said a couple of minutes ago is investigated thousands of cases some of the most celebrated the most interesting and frightening cases in the poltergeist I haunting ghost realm perhaps more than any other man of science it's great to have you back on the program I thank you George is a pleasure to be here so are you still actively investigating cases well not at this moment because I almost died in two thousand and fifteen what happened that it's a well long story short I was visiting a friend and I in the desert and I collapsed twice in each of the DVR I don't remember going in and I woke up the next day with tubes coming out of my body long story short I had acute prostatitis my prostate swelled up so large that my kidneys to the longer drain into my bladder and you can die from that and I there were no symptoms I just have passing out passing out and so I was a hospital for five weeks did you get sepsis yes No right that what I was used to the idea of getting that but I didn't get it but I knew I was in the hospital for five weeks the tubes coming out of my my kidneys and a Foley catheter I couldn't urinate directly and then let's see then I had to stay in a nursing home for a year because I wasn't functional enough yet to be on my own and then after that my kidneys it healed enough that they could pull out the the prostitutes and that I was able to urinate directly example Foley catheter but I had stayed another nursing home for nine months to make sure there was any follow up any recurring situation so that we may have lost the money I had and I had to give up my car because of it oh my god and I almost died so I then I came to live with a friend in Rancho Mirage and then we moved from that house to another house we're in palm desert and what's so odd about the timing of all this are the is that my friend I'm going for more than a quarter century and I only knew as a business associate they hired me to do some technical writing back in the nineties for a company they put together Hey and so I knew him but not well I just knew that he had never had a paranormal experience of life long story short I moved into the house his home in two thousand seventeen of April two thousand seventeen and within five weeks and being there paranormal phenomena breaks out disembodied voices out of ports objects are appearing and disappearing people are yelling like machines going are off and it happened to me a few times my friend heard and why this is happening at my age given my condition here and now after we try to move to a better house and better quieter I don't want nothing will happen here thanks for five months things began happening here and it it it just anything Lewis anomalies disembodied voices apparitions the whole nine yards and why why is this happening around my friend and I when these types of events and never happened around me before this is where it gets really interesting or it we learned that being exposed to certain energies if you're susceptible to them will alter your nervous system in a way it modifies you we don't yet understand how can you begin to propagate this energy from yourself under the right conditions in the right environment so I was on a case from two thousand five to six I went there twenty one times I ended up in the hospital nineteen times after going there at a very very turbulent case in in Benedict canyon anyway long story short all this is going on this new house why why around my friend and me which point he'd ever had anything half and talking to me months ago after the level of flurry of things happened here and you hello Mr medley was on me that some health problems you get much easier generation younger me and one of the medications he refers to the first of may is one that is it's an anti convulsant I went whoa right well you said focal seizures yeah I got out here we go the most common cinematic connection normal I've ever observed or documented is the fact an extraordinarily high percentage of poltergeist agent people were prone to have anything happen are either Cesar prong up electric however most people worry she's your partner up electric are not exactly so my friend was taking his meds they took him off and suddenly all the stuff started happening around here what a coincidence another example of what history has taught well we're gonna get into some examples of where that pops up in your work in the cases that you investigate I was gonna say that's a theme through a lot of your research over the years that I know I wanted to ask you it in the context of something I don't know if you followed it at all but we've written ten fifteen years ago right I wrote a a co wrote a book about a place called skinwalker ranch and and in the years since then there was a government study a secret Pentagon study that used the ranch as a lab and several the military people who went there in fact several of the if not a majority of the people who have visited that ranch for research purposes over the years have brought something home with them at it's as if something attach is itself they call it the native Americans live there call it a hitchhiker and I wanted to know if that sort of pops up in your research and I guess maybe you've just answered it in a way it does pop up that way more certain people that first let me say that the book confiscating Walker is superbly written you did an extraordinary job clear definitive information compelling exciting thoughtful and provocative and like I say I read the whole thing in one take I could not stop reading great job I read all the stuff that's followed it and this theories about what's going on and what we learned now is there are certain freeware free requisites to being a poltergeist aged let's put it here a good analogy you've got a DVD in your head you want to watch what's on the DVD what do you need what you need the DVD player you need a television they've got to be connected and both must be plugged into the wall and outlet then you need a remote and he put the DVD and then voila there's images on the screen before you okay you must be seems to be true when you're dealing with the second connect Max station there are several variables that must are parameters that must working relationship one is location location location strong electromagnetic anomaly field or anomalous geomagnetic field who is an individual who was hypersensitive to these types of energies which is a very small percentage of the human population I say less than five percent maybe one percent also someone who's hyper sensitive to electromagnetic and net magnetic energy to begin with they need someone who will also be featured partner up electric even if they don't No Way a lot of people was cedar prone they never get kindle to the point of having a seizure thankfully and the fact this very first time I was on coast to coast long long time ago following that apparently got all kinds of calls and all these people telling me about their you know they're on medication for the app for apple FC and when they stop taking in all this stuff transpired around them okay so these are things that have to be important then we also have these individual has to they have a poor coping medicine mechanism for dealing with stress psycho physical stress around them and of all those work together in concert you get one more element and that is very helpful what we what I would refer to as a doctor of resonance coupling means it didn't if if you meet all the other criteria of this that pattern you your nervous system might be in the same frequency bandwidth for lack lack of a better term of that environment and it resonates in induction when that happens you become the laser on the DVD and and knowing this you could do studies we are very expensive imaging technology to determine what's really going on when this happens but if your medical doctor or just you know working in the field of medicine and you did work in this area you never work again your career would end very abruptly the people would think you're crazy and what's in this is where it gets really weird drawers really where half the energy involved in poltergeist stuff make things fly around the room massive objects to make people believe for all banging noises smashing noises spontaneous combustion of matter cold spot ports objects appearing disappearing the energy involved with it whatever it is it's not electromagnetic if not nuclear energy that gravitational but it can affect all of them and the way this unknown energy let's call it zero point for lack of a better term the way this unknown energy coupled with us is to arrive in our bio magnetic field Oct electric field the bio magnetic field and in case after case take out engineering grade elect the instruments to measure the environment now measure electrical fields relief measure magnetic fields were difficult for various reasons we we we can measure people's electric feel like but there's no tomorrow no big deal I met Danny fields our extremely weak comparatively like three orders of magnitude weaker if not more so so we try to measure their by American still within handheld instruments you get no reading however if you put it near a poltergeist agent body you're seeing these bursts of magnetic flux coming out of their body but not around normal people would leave their bodies are putting out thousands not thousands maybe tens of thousands of times more energy than the average person so this is the pattern and it's extremely consistent it's the faces may change places make trains but the events do not you know every time I eat I go on your website I've I can kiss away an hour or two because I get stuck there reading these incredible cases and even though you're not able to get out and do field work right now you are able to write about the amazing cases you've already investigated and and take new new headset and your name just kind of popped into my head about three weeks ago and I asked myself I would work very tap is doing these days I sent myself an email think and you know they should reach out to him it's been a long time since he was on the show not realizing that you would not have been able to be on the shelf for years yeah yeah I was I I I would have to do it in my sleep yeah but but like the leg and I had said the you know it you mentioned some similarities in cases that run through a lot of the research that you've done and I want to start with one that you wrote about in September two thousand fourteen it's called a poltergeist case to remember right this sort of goes along with what how where we started this conversation whether things can attach themselves to people and they carry them around in there so a photo the striking blonde on the page where you're right about this case and it seems like she is somebody who carried this thing wherever she goes you you wrote sort of jokingly that what are the chances that this woman Lisa would live in a haunted house five times in a row what's like hitting the lottery five times in a row but in a bad way but that's what was so pick up the story and and sort of Phyllis him on whether Saddam is in case my fifteen years ago my colleague very tired right now I we were going to work together in many many cases she meets this really beautiful girl named Lisa okay so they need to get get along issues and we are here she moves in with them it's great she's a wonderful girl and she goes out in the first case with us to help us with your monitoring things and taking photos and video okay and if you've been interested in but she never talked about having Kamandi frequently common experience so we got on the case nothing great interesting case the ticket measurements showed nothing of interest the people said that living in the home sound a little strange we what I've learned is that only unless you listen to what they say in response to your question but how they say but anyway we come home the next day phenomena starts around Lisa and it was just one thing after another banging noises luminous anomalies in berry Conrad's home in in locker Senta and that was so amazing about the cases Lisa became get there with the flurry of activity like boom boom boom things happening like I'd be sitting in the Barca lounger downstairs watching TV in berry's home and something struck the cashier with such ferocity that I jumped out of the chair I thought but a bomb went off hundreds things will burst into flame in berry's house phone would start ringing that bell calls were coming in likes to go on and off stage sounds like the his get out universal new TV he bought a giant TV and audio sound system sounded like a crash to the floor which of course he didn't they had the dog the dog was freaking out around certain things the one honor that and now this is.

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