Listen: Norway, Apple, Seattle discussed on To the Best of Our Knowledge
"Kaka for some advice Arlene how do you define silence I think about silence, not are still opposite to songs but more like the opposite, to noise annoys, some thinking about obviously heavy, songs but also all this distraction, Seattle, all, today, from over smartphones tablets TV also visual. Noise and sense of traffic. Lights that's the opposite of silence and I think that's the biggest challenge to the daily life today, that revealingly having all this distractions that kind. Of makes it hard to Appreciate over self that's kind of, noises about running, away from his self running, away in the sense that being, connected, with, a, smartphone tablet TV's all the people why. Silence is about focusing on. Yourself not in the sense that you should be even more ego Centric alternative back to to me, it's about the apple about sinuses about Opening, up seeing people. Love life even more to this is, a very expansive definition of silence you're not just talking about sound talking when something much bigger, yeah absolutely and I think you know This silence of course it's nice to, be surrounded by silence but somehow you compensate for sinus to a, pair so sometimes especially in the cities you need to create. You on silence you need to search for the sinus within. Science, which. Is there all the time Your silence will be different from my silence and the. Sinus I had yesterday is different from today because, and this silence you meat yourself You have gone to extreme measures to experience this kind of silence that you're talking. About you're the only person, in history who's traveled both the north and. The south poles and climbed Mount Everest on foot without any help and without any radio contact How did those experiences shape your understanding in. Your appreciation of silence I think in particular models to I do this people have done it offered but in particular for me to walk to the south pole Totally by myself, fifty days and nights under. The midnight sun changed my attitude towards silence because I experience how enriching. Silence could be an how, important it is. People talking about sinus today's not a trend not a fad this is something. Deeply human we have needed for years Nelson need this. Year on the to come I'm to walk their self no radio contact you. Start to see that sometimes your brain can be wider on the? Sky let's just pause from him and put this, in context you walked for, fifty days alone, in the antibiotic that is just mind boggling I can't even, imagine you know, having that much time alone. At not to mention that the danger involved but you know and they. Hear about it on the, radio it's sounds. Bit crazy in mind boggling but actually doing it it's it's crazy in the. Sense that's all need to do is to put one. Leg in front of the other enough times you get to the south pole It's that easy Even a mouse elephant to, take small, portions but you're you're pulling a sled. During all right so I had a sled with everything you need for the whole fake because nobody had. Done this before I was uncertain Hamad days of most going to spend so have food for sixty six days then. Fuel for seven today's my sled animals eating about one kilo. Of every day so startled at one hundred twenty kilos such as probably two hundred sixty or seventy, pounds on eagle two. Pounds lighter everyday To your lot lighter by the end of the trip this slide because of course it burn off, much more calories, than extra Putin now that is also. Just a, lot of time alone with your own thoughts. And a lot, of people just wouldn't be able to handle that much time in their own head Yup and you know I. Think that's on the park correct in the sense that you actually are in that situation I think humans talent Feixolin, adopting to, the circumstances therein is huge so I. Think most people would appreciate actually being himself maybe not for fifty days and nights in Antarctica but you. Know full of slightly more than they are of course some people are tumors announces a big problem but in general. I think you know people would be better off if they. Had a bit more science in the daily life so that's also I sat down to write this, book because I felt HUD something not on the personal but also something really important to tell about can you describe what it. Was like the landscape and the silence of those fifty days in ACTA Yeah what's interesting is that when you, start out walking a field everything is flat and everything's why all the way to of the horizon But us day sandwich pass by. Start. To sealed is details that it's not absolutely white have our, vacation so why it's a bit reddish bluish pinkish appearing in the snow Flat either district truce or so you see all the details to get, more and more aware of the surroundings and also are the. Same experience as most people have if filter nature for, a long time that you kind of, feel to bother doesn't stop by your fingers, by skin extended into the nature so you start to have a kind of a dialogue the surroundings to. Send some full solved and they get all the ideas back again Do you have traveled all over the, world do you think there are different cultural experiences of silence silence sort, of defined in different ways, in the eastern culture silence is much more important the daily life on it's, higher value but also like a place in Japan if. It listen to people speak Japanese to children you have all this silent breaks, so an astonishing muchly communication is within those silent slots which. Is interesting because by comparison I think in a lot, of American conversations like when you either just with family or getting together with friends There are uncomfortable silences I mean if, people aren't just talking there's sort of like what's wrong yeah exactly You know a journalist. Into Simone and after a while is turned silent, that person you know, just have to start. To speak, and that's quite often than, people say stupid things which according. To, Tony The secret trick of journalists the uncomfortable silence, even secret topic is This The USO right about what you call visual. Silence what is? That you just walk the streets in the. City you have all this traffic in the evenings you how old is? Light and that's to me visual noise I think in many places on the, earth you're not able to see stars in the more due to this visual noise that's a bit sad because I think to the Cup into Storrow, heaviness some of the best things you can do in. Life I, mean that's interesting that you would define that as silence as opposed to being out in nature the not started writing I've thought about silence as places, with little sound but I felt that was too limiting And I suppose coming from Norway. Especially when you're not in, the city there that would be part of the experience of, being our region I mean just. Sort of being out there under those starry skies exactly I think almost. All over, Norway you'd see the starry night but you know also most of the state's civil Cestari. Nights but not in. The big cities and I'd love to to end, by having read the very last pages Yeah Paths lead to. Silence It is easier to fund silence and then people think quarterly Tonics at home Take off in one direction until there's nothing Yellow."