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It's no accident that I chose Jill sullaway to be my first guest on this podcast. I wanted someone who challenged my whole way of thinking it should be transparent by now that transparent creates a Joe has been a groundbreaking voice in the progress of trans rights in America, both in art and in life. The series is run for four seasons on Amazon, and is of course, based on Solloway actual family in two thousand eleven Jill psychiatrist father, Harry came out as transgender and the solar ways was soon. Reborn as the beguilingly dysfunctional pfefferman. Family transparent has won eight Emmys, a Golden Globe and a Peabody award and during its evolution another mind-bending transition occurred, the twice married writer director came out as gender non binary. Now, the fifty three year old or two has written a wildly candid and funny memoir cooled. She wants it. Despite the fact that Solloway now prefers the pronoun, they I visited Jill in Spanish style. Home in Los Feliz, California. Dominating the sun filled. Living room is a white peony on which sister, faith, sullaway an accomplished musician. Composes music will be heard in the fifth and final season of transparent. I had actually felt increasingly daunted by the idea of meeting, solely whom I feared might be impossibly cool. But when we met Jill had just come from a raucous for hustle faiths, new music for transparent at the fictional pfefferman. Home in Pasadena when you'll bound it into the room with such wonderful exuberance and a beautiful clear eyed face onto the gray buzz Cup, so full of joyful intelligence. I saw someone who's gender. Joni has truly set them free. And I felt unexpectedly envious the pursuit of so-called feminine attain. Glomma is such a burdensome bowl, and is all tied up with a whole deadly effort of how women try to please sitting there on the cozy couch. I wanted to say that though, I'm not gonna be declaring my gender nonconformity anytime soon, I've definitely entered my buzz cut moment and long only to sever the connection with historic miss and all that goes with it. Just all away. Welcome to TVD. Thanks for having me. I'm really excited. Well, first of all I strove in that introduction. Not to use the pronoun, she. Right. Which can I not insulting to some in the gender non binary world. And then you go and call your book, she won't sit. Okay. So why don't they want to do? You know, I wrote a grant proposal for a documentary movie called she wants it when I was in my early twenties. And I went and found that proposal as I was digging through my pass trying to you know, figure out where I came from. And who I was and what it meant to grow up in this house where this person that. I thought was my father was actually a second mother. And I couldn't believe that. I was thinking about the same damn things twenty five years ago desire consent. What female this has to do with our ability to be believed in the court of law? I've been thinking about it so much that I thought you know, it's a title. I'm going to stick with it. It is an also, of course, it does speak to one of the other team. That just does run very strong through the boat. Which is this amazing? I'm Bishen you've always had. I mean, I love the way that your so frontal about the fact that you wanted success, and you said you'll let your mother has unstoppable need for tension. Do you think that she was one of the drivers of this thing that you have which is to get it done and make it happen? Yeah. Keep doing it. Just go for sure. Yeah. We grew up in a neighborhood in Chicago called south Commons. And this neighborhood was a beautiful conflicts of kind of revolutionary moment where white people and black people were creating this neighborhood together. Feminism was in their equal rights. And then there was the Black Panthers. And we were all really believing. I think in the idea of an intersectional power movement. Even though we didn't have those words yet. And recently, I've been speaking to people and saying, you know, what was happening in the neighborhood, what kinds of organizations were going on. And one of the people lived in south common said like are you trying to be funny, and I'm like, no? And they said there was no organizations..