Tyra, Pablo Michaels, Robin Right discussed on Chicks in the Office


Several steps kind of deeper beyond just the because everyone knows reality is not real. Ok Well. All right. So what are you GonNa talk about in a novel? So ultimately, this is a character piece. And I really wanted to. It's not just about Kisha cash and Pablo Michaels, which is you over my shoulder. Just, about those two characters as a whole cast of characters, it becomes this really interesting ensemble group characters but really what I'm illustrating our human stories and my goal was to help shift the paradigm about how we look at power authority and relationships, and so when you get into these character pieces and look at what everyone's doing and people don't realize before I even started writing the book I'd outlined the story I knew I was going to do this. Really. You know I was going to break literary convention with. His very kind of jarring thing and towards the end of the book But I actually sat down with two different psychologists and I talked with them and interview them about kind of what my story was and I wanted to really discuss why certain people would react certain ways within the story and really really take apart these characters and have fun with it. So I think that's the surprising thing people are having. When they read the book they're like I. Thought this was going to be a fluffy little puff piece. And it is fun and it's meant to be. It's a very fast buck a fast paced book. It's meant to be relentless mirror the world behind the scenes fashion reality but I think the thing that people have not expected so far when they dig into it is just that it these characters are so rich and they're their characters, unto themselves that they're not meant to be like Oh. This is so and so this is so and so they really became their own their own beings. Really Right. There are so. Many. Layers to it like we said before and I feel like you're right that there is a misconception of what the book is actually about especially, people are now saying that tyra banks heard about the book and was not happy about the book. But hearing you talk about it sounds like it's not really identical to America's next top model. So how do you feel about that? Well, you know, I I totally understand that people are have made assumptions I mean look at the even the cover line on the book In it is inspired by that world, I mean there is a black supermodel host. Her name is Kiesha cash and she's the host of a show or you actually see the birth of the show it's called model Muse within the world of the book So obviously, there are parallels, but I've made it very clear that I've used kind of my life. As inspiration to tell stories very authentically but it's not they're not related McGinnis fiction and You know in terms of even quiches character you know unlike I think other stories and other books or franchises link terms of films they you know you know the I'll call it. The seemingly like the antagonist character. And I'm putting that in quotes. Is often like a bill or their just you know you know you know they're the antagonists because of the way they are and we don't ever learn why and with in in my book I wanted you know Kisha cash she's very, she's an anti hero. She's this Boehner -able rich incredible female character and I looked to people that I admire like, Shonda rhimes who blew open the doors with like how to get away with murder for instance, with analysts Keating played brilliantly by Viola. Davis. You've got this character where you love her you root for her she's powerful she strong. Then you don't trust her then you don't like her then you're matter. Then you love her again and I wanted to have a character that was just as rich and diverse because traditionally those those kind of those gem characters were always reserved for white straight men and not even you know not until even house of cards. Did we get like Claire? Underwood you know you know played by Robin Right. If. I wanted to I wanted to. Have that kind of true diversity in terms of inclusion as well in terms of this character. Yeah. Am I getting techy for you now? No I totally understand because I feel I've seen. It's like waiting for the delight and we always always pause that we don't speak. I was yeah. I was GONNA say that I've actually been seeing a lot of people talk about like why don't we ever see what like the mean girl feels like a movie like we only see the outside of her being a mean girl and not why she is that way. So I feel like I definitely get what you're saying. Yeah because there's always a contributing factor you know. One of the things that I I was always raised this way when someone is like angrier reacts to you like my mom's like well, you just really don't know what they are day was you don't know what they're processing and it's not an excuse, but it just helps put everything in perspective and I think you know I said it in in my. I talk about in my acknowledgements it's just a short paragraph to make a statement you know talking about you know you know telling our stories and our pain through comedy. It really helps us learn about humanness and how to become more humane to one another and I think that's an important message and I, think it is important to kind of understand and see the three sixty of characters so. I had a lot of fun with that and I tried to really honor that in terms of my feelings for Tyra. You know our relationship isn't what it was. However, I still will always speak positively about her i. respect everything that she represents every door she's kicked down as a woman as a black woman what she represents to so many young Brown and black girls and boys in the industry, and so I will never ever you know. Feed negatively against that..

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