R J, R. J discussed on Retire with Integrity with Brian Bowen

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They want to identify those trends and Be at the forefront of where their industry is going. And I would imagine the fact that you educated yourselves so often really, really helped. Would you say that's true? Absolutely. And certainly with the technology were constantly testing out new products, new applications and figuring out if they could fit into our pipeline, how we could just constantly and continuously improve. Our workflow our speed our efficiency, And that was a big reason why only started perception. It was that game changer event in the industry that it's time to start moving things onto the desktop and it it worked. You know, when it came down to just being really smart with the tools and being really creative with them, and then convincing old school clients that this is the future, you know, it's okay if you're going to get as good, if not a better product for a lot less money, and probably most of the times faster. So do you think that creativity is something? You either have or you don't have, or do you think that there's a way that you can nurture that creativity? I think it could be nurtured. But, you know, certainly there's I think innate creativity that You know some people have and they need to express more than others. You know, It was definitely part of the inner fire that both of us had. And we started perception. And we were at this company R J that was changing their entire business model at the time, which was a turning point in both of our lives because we both went Away from R. J and started to do different things. But we have this burning desire to go back to the world that we used to work in that R J was no longer doing so we have created for ourselves, and that's kind of Ah. A short version of the story of how perceptions started is that the two of us kept in constant touch after we both left our gear, and we're both really homesick for the work that we used to do, and we decided that we should take the plunge, take the risk and given the existing technologies that were or around at that time it was possible. For two guys to do it so cool. Well, I want to talk to you more about that When we come back, we're going to take a short break. But when we come back, I want to discuss how you got where you are today. Because where you are is a place that a lot of our entrepreneurs would love to be. So sit tight. We are the biggest entrepreneur destination.

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