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"What happens to your voice halfway through the campaign. I mean we are here to help you make sense of the federal election and we we're also here to do as much damage to Rosemary's voice his less than three weeks to go before Canadians head to the ballot box which means we're halfway through the campaign heard the leaders leaders pitches and rose the numbers. They have not moved stuck in the mud. They do seem quite similar to the way we started. Yes so nothing's what's happening with this winter. That is apparently grabbed voters attention. Why don't they seem engage. Maybe because they have lives you know like you and I these alleged voting wise that it is you. WanNa talk about Rosie. I'm stressed about this because polls at least according to the CDC bowl tracker have been basically at the same place at the WH- started smoking paid Rosie. We're at the halfway point of this campaign and we really just I haven't seen much movement in the polls so let's look at the national polling averages from the poll tracker still a very tight race between the Conservatives and liberals about third so we started the Liberals Conservatives service were sort of tied right around thirty three percents right now they've moved by point six percent in favor of conservative so nick not a lot now the while the leaders have been out there. They've been making speeches. It'd be making pitches. They've been expressing their visions of what they want this country to look like so. It's a little bit worrying to me I'm wondering if the parties have done enough to capture the imagination and the attention of voters and you have to imagine in an election that is taking place at a time where whether such our our global turmoil very sad time for the American people for our country impeaching a president south of the border the president might be getting peach now now no one knows what's happening with brexit coming out of the E U on October the thirty first come what may Iran and Saudi Arabia seemed to be on on the brink of conflict for a drone attack on Saudi Arabian oil facilities yesterday and then here at home. We have an election that is largely about a lot of boutique tax tax credits these parties keep promising these like really small sort of incremental changes to your lives and I'm wondering if there is a larger campaign question. Shen that is absent in this election. Is this election about anything or is it just not about anything yet. I guess would be the other way to frame that so I ah I'm glad you brought it up because I think that is something that the people are wondering because when you make a decision to vote it has to be about something obviously that that matters to you and motivate motivate you to get out there and do it and I think in the last election in two thousand fifteen where I didn't lose my voice but it was seventy two days it was a sort of a referendum on Stephen Harper who had been in power for ten years and there was desire for change and there was a completely different idea in the window embodied Bye Bye Justin Trudeau. This is a little bit different. Here's a guy who's been there for four years. He wants another mandate. There's two new federal leaders with the Conservatives in the end EP Green Party leader. Who's WHO's tried many times to to get more support so my point I guess is that there's nothing big out there. It's not it's not that people are GonNa say I've had enough because I've been with this guy too long. They might have had enough of true but not because he's been there for such a long time but I also wonder whether those things that you're talking about the bits and pieces. Don't add up or something. Well see my whole thing of approaching. This is I'm thinking about the climate strikes. Millions of people have been coming out to those massive numbers here in Toronto in Montreal all the way across Canada. There is something there that is motivating a lot of people we're not at least from the numbers. Ah for at least from the polling numbers we're not seeing the same kind of excitement about the offerings of political parties for example so seems to be this disconnect between Canadians who are clearly paying attention to a to a a larger question yeah in at least one topic area but not when it comes to this election yeah yeah I mean we had sort of a week of climate built around around some of those big protests that you're talking about and I noticed the engagement of people obviously sleet and agree that people are worried about climate change and and sort of had a moment where I thought oh maybe this is it. Maybe this is the thing that we're going to make a decision on the Green Party. Leader Elizabeth may likes to say that if we don't do something now it'll be too late right. What we can avoid is having them become so catastrophic that human civilization collapses with a lifetime of our children? This is not hyperbole and certainly the offer the policy offers on climate change or art drastically different different so you can you can make an informed decision about how you think is the best way to tackle climate change all that to say though that didn't happen. I. I don't think that this election shen is about climate change or just about climate change or that the people that we saw in the streets have now become all the people running to the ballot box to vote so the climate climate change didn't move the dials that much the black face incident didn't move the dial that much all these boutique tax credits rolling out you know the liberal saying we'll give low income voters to grant to go visit. National Parks conservatives bringing back income sprinkling that these promises that the rolling out while I guess interesting according to the Party's saying you WanNa go for these voters voters was kind of looking at this being like I'm not I don't know they're not moved by it yeah or or they might be moved by it. add up to something yes yeah so. I think one of two things you look at the boutique tax credits that largely the conservatives have put in place or tax breaks that the liberals have have put in place and you say to yourself. Oh I would get something from that. You know I do want fitness tax credit for my kid or do the public transport tax credit. Those are both conservative measures so that's enough for me. That's enough for me to make decision to vote for you right like that's something that impacts my life directly and I feel like this will help me or it becomes a bigger conversation about about what you just said. All those things add up to something so conservatives believe that there should be less government in our lives so that's why they take all those tax credits credits to give the money back to you so you can start making decisions rather than creating programs so conservatives for conservatives that division get out of the way and let Canadians look after themselves and let us take care of the country and make sure things are okay here for the Liberals. It's obviously a different vision and and it would be a similar vision on the left right they andy me and the Greens we're GonNa make your life easier by creating things to help you whether it be systems gums or programs or whatever and so maybe that's the vision but how do you put that on a bumper sticker. You certainly don't you you know Roland at around. Maybe like twenty different small ads. I think this is a little bit of what our life is like now. Politicians will assemble these very targeted targeted policies that are like wow this policy will get the votes of these people and these people and these people and then through that you can assemble some kind of coalition. That looks like Oh that's enough to get you know this number of seats those numbers votes. I'm wondering though if if that is enough well I'm wondering if there's any inspiration in this. Are People going to be jumping at the post be like let me vote for very small incremental changes might benefit the slight way so I would. I would ask the question does every election have to be about something big that would be my first question okay and my my next question would be maybe those things that seemed tiny are actually big to the person right like for as. I said maybe there's little things there that that are big enough to affect a person and let's be honest if we saw a different government than the one we have now. If it was conservative green in our end EP things would look different not not when you wake up the next day but pretty quickly the country would start to move in a different direction and you would start to see that whether it be on the climate policy how they approach Y- foreign affairs You know what what you get in your income tax bracket hit all that kind of stuff so it's it's. Maybe not just what one little thing looks like to you which might be enough which might be enough of vision for you but I I think it's it's a good question to ask is. What would the country look like then you know six months from now if I went with this party that that'd be a good question to ask yourself? I guess I just keep thinking of the song I need a hero."