Fire Department, Instructor, Boston discussed on Brotherhood Academy Radio
One thousand nine hundred four in a little place called Julius Town New Jersey Join their because my sister actually went to the academy. She married into a Fire Department family. I had never really. I thought the Fire Department look cool. Seemed cool when they brought the trucks to the school when I was a little kid. But that's my goal was to be pro baseball player. They go and not to be a fireman and so I joined there Went through the academy as junior member because back then the child labor laws apparently didn't apply and and suggestions and I joined new Egypt Volunteer Fire Company in nineteen eighty seven. Which was a town that I lived in. Grew up in where my family still lives and rose all the way through the ranks. There I was chief there for six years I got on the job in one thousand nine hundred ninety in Hamilton which is just outside of threaten And I've been there ever since ever since. Yes I'm coming up on my third finishing my thirtieth year there next month. Wow and good stuff. Yeah yes now your top guy. That's what they tell me at least for a little while great so how. `Bout the how. `Bout the Fire Training Company. You got on scene. I ever get it wrong. On-scene fire training right. Yeah on training associates We've been around for a long time. We we. We've got sixteen years officially in business but We were doing a little bit before we actually formed the LLC We've been all over the world. We've we've taught in a lot of different places. We've taught in several different countries territories We just did a month in American Samoa. Last year really We were teaching Surface water rescue to the airport. Fire Department there So Yeah we've we've we. We've got varied group. It's really really cool. Because instructor wise we have guys from all over the country All levels of training all levels of their experience large fire departments. You know big cities like Boston and New York to small towns so we I think what we offer as a diversity that not every training group can offer. I would agree. That sounds like that big city too small town I mean. That's that's pretty good right there. So how'd you meet up with this guy over here you know? It's it's all fools fools has been what brought my career to what it is brought my so I guess I would call it my fire service enlightenment to what it is. Yep I met guys through fools and it just kept growing Do and and I think ninety seven ninety eight fools we form New Jersey Chapter Jersey Fools in ninety nine and it just kept growing and we met at a fool's event somewhere I couldn't even tell you where honestly twenty I had this conversation with somebody last night. How did you get hooked up? I'm like I don't know I honestly don't I mean clearly? We didn't hook up but well. Yeah sorry maybe that wasn't a good tonight. As far as nick knows judge good but now yeah it's funny because the New England guys and US just clicked and we've been super tight ever since and we've we've done so many things together and back when Jersey Fools we were doing our thing Quite a bit we were having insurance issues. We called Rusty New England came down. It became a Jersey fools. New England fools thing so we had insurance and that really led to the joint training big time and it and it's only gained wheels ever since and just keeps rolling. Yeah I think you've turned into a familiar face around the New England fools Events now you know I think anyone that's in the fire. Service should join up with a local full chapter. And I've been saying this on the podcast a few times. Now since we had rusty on the show at it's it's important because the outside training you get those different faces you get the different perspectives. So I've said it before I said the last time when I was on the show is the fire services a big bright beautiful world. Yep Get out and see get out and see it. Don't you stay in your little? Microcosm of an area of my dad taught me in. His granddad taught him and added out of that. Now get out and see what's out there. We've got guys in this class this weekend. From all six states Pennsylvania New York and New Jersey which is incredible for a little local fire conference on the coast of Maine in March? And I and I can tell you. I'm here completely as a student. Not really representing on scene. I mean you know my department paid for me to come at the time before I was promoted. My chief saw the need absolutely approved me to come up. They paid the bill and I'm sitting in the front row taking notes just like everybody else. Because there's so much to learn from these guys just you know what we heard from. Brooke last night and her motivation of not motivating. It's impressive. That's impressive. I was supposed to get up and go work out with her tonight warning. And you know what my biggest concern was. When I'm laying there thinking I gotta get in the gym. She's GonNa kick my hat. She probably could she definitely. Yeah but but learning from these learning from these people. I mean learn what Danny just just presented about rapid intervention in his own case. And I've been teaching rapid intervention for a long time and what he said absolutely qualified and quantified a lot of things. We've been teaching for for the last twenty five years right right so it's it's just fantastic to be surrounded by this level of people rusty. You've got to go. I don't WANNA I don't want one and just to add to that I mean if you look around the room this rumor no no no with everybody but in that student pool there are at least eight of our instructor cadre teach us all the time every time and they're running their in their paid students to learn from the guys and girls that we brought in this weekend would never stop learning kind of theory. You can't miss me. There's other groups out there doing the same thing. Yeah no because they're too cool. Yeah you can never make get your ego that high where you think that you can't learn something exactly. There's all of us in this room in. That room are always open. Should always be open. And it's like we talked with Dave Osgood not too long ago. And he mentioned that the three presenters Geno LAS sane at this one and the cool thing to me was you got guys in that room you got you got pat. O'connor you got Dave Gallagher. You got guys who have fought a lot of fires in their lives who have trained all over the country who get it right and you've got eighteen year old kids that are sitting there having conversations with them at the break. That's pretty cool. Yeah you know. It's it's definitely cool to see that interaction and and that's something that happens fools fools events more so than other events and because it is so inclusive and it is so accepting of all of us. I mean when you look at that fools mantra. They don't care if you wear white helmet. You wear a pro be shield. They don't care if you're you know thirty forty years on the job or four months your fool you believe in the same things that mantra carries on and to me. That's very very important and the and one thing. That really is important to me and something that I hold close with the fools the fact that there is no difference between volunteer and career nondenominational. We like to say right. And and that's a big thing with our podcast. Here is is seventy five percent of our audiences volunteers because we try to promote the recruitment retention. And all that leadership over Blah Blah Blah. And you come to these events and there's no there's no division now know what I mean. No one cares raw here doing the same thing and the thing with our events in our Instructor Pool. Our instructor cadre and the people that tend to come around to our things. We don't care where you work right. You wouldn't know where any of these guys work safe affect. It might say someone that helmet on the back of their coach. You're not going to know that. So many guys work in the city. Hartford the city of Boston because it doesn't matter because they also for the most part started somewhere else. They started whether they were in the service and volunteer just off base or the volunteer in their hometown or they started out as a volunteer comment somewhere and now they're sitting guy which is fantastic. You're living the dream but it does not come back to. It does not come back into right. They never forgot where he never forgot. Got Listen you know I like I said I joined Julius Town Volunteer Fire Company. If they're I don't know how many runs they run if they run one hundred runs a year right now. It's probably a lot and it's absolutely. There's not even a single traffic light in that town. Oh Wow it's a it's a one horse town for sure but it's important to me that every time I do a podcast or somebody asks me to give a speech and they want you to talk a little bit about where you came from. You don't forget where we all came from. Somebody somewhere yeah. It's it's rusty and I are both parrot heads. Were both Jimmy Buffett fans right. Yeah he sings great song. Nobody from nowhere absolutely and that's everybody started that way. Anybody the big leagues you. You know I'm at the Wire Boston. I'm from Trenton New Jersey on Philly. It's all bullshit. They all started somewhere and they were appropriate. Who didn't put their gear on one day. Yeah and now they're superstars which great but that doesn't ever give the reason big-league somebody else because that kid looking up is the one that we can influence to be the next really superstar. Firefighter great absolutely all right. Well the bar open yet. It could it. Could it be? I know the bar that has a twelve pack of PBR. In. My Room is overhead. De-selection whiskey behind the table. Here all right cool guys. I don't WanNa keep you much longer because we get food coming. It's coming soon and you get beer coming and we're going to maybe talk some more people and this up Celso Brotherhood some fellowship so awesome. Maybe I can get Hamel Hamilton. Come sit with US I know. He's he's often. Paul left He's doing he's doing the other thing we're doing tonight and York so but thanks guys. I appreciate it all right. We're back and we another guy on the show. It's Chris Lawsuit. Locie sorry has told me that closely St Lucie County Florida Fire Department right absolutely and You presented earlier today at the fools event and You're with on-scene on-scene training. What how? How did he wasn't training associates? Yes it's funny because Aaron corrected me ought to and your thing today was it really really caught my attention because it really goes along with what we do on this podcast. You're teaching you're thing called leading from the backseat. This correct is so What's what's a little bit about that word that come from well. It started I've been I've been taking classes for for years and years and years and I've taken tactics classes I've taken pump operator classes. I've taken company officer classes but I never saw classes that catered to or I. I shouldn't say catered to but Pertain to informal leadership and and Senior Man. Type leadership. So you know. This isn't anything that I invented. It's it's just something you know. I've I've noticed throughout the years. I've learned from senior guys on the job that I do want to be like and senior guys on that. I don't WANNA be. Yeah so it's Kinda culmination of both of those things and just taking one man's thoughts you know jot down and getting the word out. I like it because it really promotes what we'd like to promote is anybody can be leader. Absolute don't have to have a title or rank right leader absolutely no and and people aren't and people say this year a born leader but people really in my opinion aren't born to lead. It's it's something you have to learn I in anyone can do. Absolutely I do believe that It's something you know You do learn and it's you know here's the thing is you don't have to be the guy with the most years on the department to be a leader you know you don't is sometimes the guy with with the most years on is you know For lack of a better word maybe not the most motivated person out there. Yeah so you need somebody with Moxy you know you need somebody that can can can create enthusiasm and you know has an idea of what's going on. You just reminded me of something kind of off topic while you're up here in Maine. Pickup Moxy Moxy. You know what I've had oxy have you had. I have have all right. Okay but no you're right. There are your senior guys can be good leaders and they may not be but even your brand new person coming in can lead based on their own skills and their by staying in their lane like for example we tell our guys on the Department of your brand new you pick up the pick up the brush and start washing the truck and lead that way..