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"I'm Rachel Martin in Washington DC, and I'm David Greene. Broadcasting this morning from member station K el-sisi in Eugene, Oregon. So here's a question. What do you believe? It's a really personal question. Right. It's one that. Now, stands to have major implications for health professionals and patients the Trump administration issued a new rule that gives health care workers leeway to refuse to provide serve. Kisses like abortion, sterilization or assisted suicide, if they cite a religious or conscientious objection the department of health and human services issued this rule to protect the religious rights of medical providers and also religious institutions, and this is an expansion. We should say of existing protections. Let's talk it through with NPR health policy. Correspondent Alison kodjak who's here. I allison. Hi, david. Okay. So if there were already some protections in place, what exactly does this change? So what does really does it strengthens? Those existing protection that expand enforcement put in place, actually, a clear enforcement mechanism. So people who believe that their religious rights have been trampled on healthcare workers have a place to go to make complaints, we talked with Gennifer tab, she's a lawyer with this. I liberty institute, which represents religious liberty cases. And she's pretty happy that this has been put in place. Ted healthcare professional to discriminated against because of their pro life beliefs, for example, this will ensure that the twenty five conscience protections that are already caught him or actually in forcible. It's an important step prevent discrimination against healthcare professional so people tub in her clients, they now have a more receptive ear for these complaints. What? So critics are saying. I mean, they're worried that this will block a lot of patients. I mean, especially women gay transgender people from accessing care, they need talk me through that argument and how serious concern that as well. So this rule specifically talked about healthcare services and not people, but those areas of health care that people often face religious objections are the ones that women transgender people, and sometimes gay and lesbian people access abortion. Contraception for Tila, treatment, gender reassignment surgery. Here's Reverend Jennifer Butler. She is the head of the faith in public life. Life. It's a national organization of clergy and faith leaders this rule will enable people to discriminate against people because of their sexuality because of their gender. It will remove some of the protections. We have for children as people were called to love our neighbors. We love ourselves and treat every single person is created in God's image. And so it's hard for me to understand how somebody's religious beliefs would dictate, but they discriminate against another human being denied them. Lifesaving care to this goes beyond gender specific services. So perhaps end of life care, if you think of that somebody who had the living will there could be cases where healthcare providers refuse to withdraw life support. Even if somebody has said that that's what they want. And when it comes to gay and lesbian and transgender people. We are expecting an additional rule from the department of health and human services that could specifically remove discrimination protections for those people that have been. Place since the Obama administration. Let me bring up another scenario if I can know this these these protections will now extend to even medical receptionist. I mean, anyone in the health setting does this mean, for example, like someone could even refuse to to to prepare a document and refer patient care. Yeah. And that's pretty controversial Roger Severino who's the head of the HHS office. Civil rights said that this will extend to anyone with a connection to the objectionable service. So it's pretty expansive somebody could refuse. Yes. Like, you said to fill in forms to take blood pressure. It could go pretty far NPR's Alison kodjak reports on healthcare policy for NPR. Thanks so much. Thank you. David speaker, Nancy Pelosi accused attorney general William bar of lying to congress over special counsel Robert Mueller's report, but she is largely cautioned Democrats to take it slow in their response to the special counsels, work bars, refusal to appear before the House Judiciary committee is exceleron. The confrontation though between President Trump and. Congress NPR congressional correspondent Susan Davis has the story attorney general William bars, refusal to appear before the House Judiciary committee did accomplish one thing. According to Maryland. Democrat Jamie Raskin, they've succeeded."