James Baker, James And U. S Government discussed on Free Talk Live


All this time. I'm happy because I called Yeah. What do you like, has invited by? Are you been talking to me? One year Are you on speakerphone? Forgive me. Take yourself off a speaker phone, James. Otherwise, we can't really hear you. Hey, doctor. That's so much better hope I have the time back because I called in to answer James's where, uh, and he asked for people to call in the yell at him. That are the subject you were talking about earlier and I'm profoundly sorry for any medical difficulties. Thing as James Baker calls it inside you a thing. Had medical, please that given that you live in the 21st century, you knew that before. Are you referring to abortion has to be born. I'm referring to a fellow human being James Baker. And I was going to ask the doctor. If James Baker, we're in your James, I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna give you one more warning. If you did need me again. I'm dropping the car. That's it. Have a good night, James. Stupid and pointless. Evidently, James is anti abortion or Whatever terminology they use, where whatever he was trying to say it was kind of very unclear. The gist of it that I got was something about being pro pro Pro life, I think is the term they use but pro forced birth. It was very unclear. So anyway, back to the story about Internet censorship and government shutting down the Internet. The 2011 Egyptians shut down and others since have drawn attention to the role Internet service providers play in countries where very few exist. And highly developed markets. Like the United States where there are thousands of I s P s. They share size of the market provides a degree of protection. I don't think it does that The U. S government told all of the ISPs passed a law saying, Hey, look. Get rid of the Internet service right now. I don't think it matter how many there are, they would they would do it. But in many countries as in Egypt in 2011, the Web can be brought to a shuttering hot with just a few phone calls. Access now is calling on ISPs in those countries to resist government pressure to block or throttle Internet access and to report the requests they receive. Global companies like Facebook and Google, meanwhile, have a role to play in tracking Internet outages and determining whether they were intentional. Maybe Facebook is being blocked or Google platforms are being shut down in these areas. Can you find out what is happening on the ground? That context is always important. You can see a drop in traffic. But once you have the context, like okay, there's an upcoming election. There's an ongoing conflict. We were able to see whether this is an intentional attempt by the authorities to keep the rest of the world in the dark or if this is a technical problem. Governments also are paying attention. A number of global groups, including the United States, have condemned Internet shutdowns as a as a violation of basic human rights. I don't think it's a violation of peace. Well, I guess so free speech is a basic human right? So I guess I agree with them on that. I just don't like saying that the Internet is a basic human, right? Yeah, because it's not a natural thing, right? Right. And it has to be provided to you from another human being, so it can't possibly be a human rights. And I mean, if someone was setting up their own Internet, But even then it's just I don't know. We're getting very 21st century. I'm gonna say that free speech is a basic human rights and the government inhibiting your ability to use the Internet Express your Free speech is a violation of human rights. But you have no right to access the Internet unless you pay someone for that service. And Antonio assists. More pressure is needed, saying quote, the more voices we have speaking the same language and pushing back against this particular problem, The more the issue becomes important for the various stakeholders that are able to influence or bring that problem to an end. Can't imagine very many of these companies in Egypt that, you know, shut down the Internet in 2011 were like publicly traded and had to worry about stock values and stuff like that. Maybe they were I don't know a whole lot about the Egyptian economy, though. At any rate. The ability of governments to shut down the Internet is a problem and I don't know how look. The military in Egypt took over the government in 2011 in a military coup. Do you really expect and an Internet service provider to tell those same people know we're not going to shut down the Internet for you? Even though you're the military, and you just took over everything. Right? Yeah. Exactly. The military would just take over the I s P right and shut it down that way, So I can't. I can't say I even blame the ISPs for cooperating because the Internet was gonna get shut off. Either way. But if they did it this way, they didn't get killed and they didn't get killed, which is The real problem here is how do you hold governments accountable for their actions? You can't expect companies that have licenses to lose, especially in military Dictatorships that just Had their military take up their entire government to be the ones willing to stand up and say no, we're not going to do that. Because they're the military. If they want to do a thing, they have the guns and the means to do it, whether you like it or not, such as the U. S government recording 33,000 phone calls of a New York Times writer who was charged as being a paid Iranian agent. Journalist basically U. S government. 33,000 of his phone calls being recorded. The U. S government was surreptitiously listening in on the calls of a frequent New York Times opinion contributor who now faces federal charges for allegedly being an unregistered foreign agent. Of Iran, The Times contributor whose name I'm not going to attempt. Sorry about that pled not guilty in February after being arrested at his Boston area home, and in August, the 25th status hearing, a U. S attorney handling the case said he was preparing to turn over 33,000. Audio recordings of the defendant in August. 27th letter said that in addition to the audio recordings, the government is turning over I ours health insurance and banking records. So quite a lot of discovery in that particular case, 33,000 phone call recording so that's

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