Nelson Mandela, Britain, David discussed on Richard Herring's Leicester Square Theatre Podcast
They're playing Otis Redding, Marvin Gaye as he's sort of northern dockers. Yeah. You know. And that was very surreal. And when I saw Harry Enfield playing Nelson Mandela probably in the last decade again, I thought, well, Harry has a funny. Remember, thinking, Harry M food has a funny take on Nelson Mandela. Why wouldn't he dress up like Nelson Mandela to do? And I remember thinking for us, and it seems it seems very naive thing to think in, in, in the modern day, but I remember thinking you know they're. There was a greediness to little Britain and show off. We were show offs in the we just wanted to play as many carrots as possible. So we play black white straight gay male female fat fin told short whatever, but I remember thinking I actually remember thinking this, which which which I don't think like this anymore, but I remember thinking when we're doing come fly with me, thinking, Britain is multicultural. That's a wonderful thing. We actually wouldn't be doing our job if we didn't reflect the multi-culture now. That's what I thought, then I don't think that any more. Sure, I think that anymore, I feel I believe I'm much more sympathetic with kind of a contemporary, reading of or a contemporary approach to doing things. So I would not play characters of other races now. And do you think that I can't I can't change what we did? The only thing I can say is because I do asked about this a lot. The only thing I can say is is that I definitely didn't ever do it within. Any ill intent ever. I never ever ever thought, wouldn't it be funny? If I play a person of this race. Now, sometimes in the execution of character. There was a crudeness, and I think the main example, I I've talked about in the past is we had a character in series three, I think of little Britain Tinton. He was a tie Bryden. Both David, and I as a rare thing where both David and I we used to go away a little break after a series of little Britain, and come up with some ideas and come together and we both had written down tie bride. Right. Right. So we'd both written that down. And I think what happens, so we're very it was like oh, we have to do this, and I think what happened is sometimes. When you playing lots of characters, you're doing everything you can't define them. Sometimes you only end up defining them in how different they are to the other characters. You're playing because you're playing some doing forty fifty sixty characters in a series or across three series. You've just got to think I've got I've pulled something out the bag. That makes this different to the other things. But I think the other thing that happened with that character. I remember really thinking in retrospect, is that wearing the statics one can become so buried under prostatic that when you go to give a performance, you're either really wouldn or really Hammy and sometimes you really of these aesthetics on, and you're so scared of nothing being seen, because you're buried underneath it that you end up giving a very big crude performance. And so, and I look at that. I think I don't think there's any truth in that performance. And I kind of I. I regret but, but in terms of the change of coach person when it came out, suddenly my memory of it is that this was a show that actually, so it was more likely to piss off right wing people than left people. Now it's a show that pisses off left people more than right wing people, which is it's interesting because the show hasn't changed the time has changed. But that is it is that was acceptable fifteen years ago. Say it definitely was acceptable at the time and I'll give you an example, when David played the transvestite the rubbish transvestite that felt to us like a very assertive queer, positively queer thing to do which is to go. We're playing transvestites. We're playing gay people in our show. You know, I, I was I didn't find publicly as gay and. I'd grown up on a diet of Mr..