Fort Yukon, Alaska, Richard Carol discussed on Trapping Today
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I think he was like sixteen or seventeen in he wanted he he initially went to work as a cook in the gold mining camps and his brother had been out there mining and they were going to get rich and as shortly after he arrived in Alaska Carol decided that he wanted to go trapping in of course back then there was a lot of money in trapping it was an adventurous lifestyle he started talking to some old timers and and and he kinda was hooked on the idea so he went straight to Fort Yukon which was the first capital of the world at the time and he got an outfit he got a travel partner essentially no trapping experience and they went out in the middle of nowhere and he spent several years going back out in in the same area <hes> trapping for <hes> essentially ten months out of the year they be back in town for a couple of months in the summer and they'd Hetero back out on the trap line. It was a heck of an adventurous lifestyle it was it was just it was crazy. <hes> challenging brutal harsh conditions <hes> took a very tough person to do that. Jim and his wife Fanny had a whole bunch of kids and one of those children was guy by the name of Richard Carol and Richard Grew up in in Fort Yukon of course while he grew up <hes> in out in the middle of nowhere with with his parents on the trap line but if you are interested in more information on this in just like a an actual <hes> an old timer story telling session Richard Carol did an interview with the Alaska Trappers Association. He actually gave kind of talk about his story in his trapping career. He's he's either passed away or he's a really old man right now and <hes> fascinating guy he had a lot of interesting stories to tell again Jim Carroll son in go to Alaska trappers Dot Org the Alaska Trappers Association website. You can find these oral history interviews. There are at least <hes> twenty thirty of them. I listened to probably eight or ten of them so far and <hes> just go down till you find Richard Carol's interview. You have to pay a for them. I think they are two dollars two dollars and fifty cents for an interview and it's probably about forty five minutes or an hour long of Richard Carroll giving a talk. I think it's well worth the price and <hes> it's it's. He's got a lot to say a lot of great trapping information there. He was one heck of a link trapper in a Martin trapper back in the days but his father Jim Carroll he <hes> he trapped for a number of years he went into Fort Yukon settled in and started trading post and he was a fur buyer for a number of years he actually went back out in on the trap line <hes> in between us some of that but when he was had some young kids kids him and fanny one year decided to go out to the old crow flats <hes> the crow flats were at the kind of the headwaters of the porcupine river raid along in around the border between Gene Alaska and the Yukon territory in Canada and the this area was just a huge mass of flat country with tons and tons and tons of water her and it was wide open not a tree insight <hes> and an water water water just flat area with all kinds of little backwater sloughs in the river and in Pothole lakes all over the place. And this water these lakes in river channels were all loaded with muskrats and back in those days in the nineteen <hes> teens muskrats Kratzer selling for three dollars a piece now it doesn't sound like much right but if you punch in in the inflation calculator three dollars in say nineteen thirteen that was worth about twenty five dollars today's Money Seurat's are paying twenty five bucks. I'm not too bad if you can go up to the crow flats and and catch several hundred of them or a couple of thousand so they decided to go up to the crow flats and in typically these guys <hes> they're out in the trampling all winter long but they would start out and they'd be trapping for <hes> links Martin Wolf Wolverine <hes> a little bit of mink and in some of the other species but they wouldn't trap for rats until L. sometime in March when when things slowed down for the other species and they were start trapping through the ice in March and then go until <hes> break-up or until the the ice melted and then when they had open water they'd shoot the rats so so this was kind of a trip to go up and and <hes> induced combination trapping and shooting there's a chapter in in his book above the Arctic Circle which you can find online <hes>. There's there's lots of copies available. It's called <hes> The crow flats and I'm GonNa read through this chapter. I am a backup for a minute to the end of the previous chapter because it gives a little introduction on the the Crow Flats Carroll Carroll says during Nineteen Nineteen Nineteen Twenty muskrats were bringing four dollars each on the firm markets. We decided to go to the old flats to catch rats. The Old Crow flats are located in the Yukon Territory Canada there about seventy miles across and contain several hundred lakes nearly all of them Radley's. Some of the lakes are ten miles in extent we decided to go to the crow flats and make our fortune catching rats. The CO flats are located about two hundred and fifty miles north of Fort Yukon by dog team. We'd have to double trip all the way with two dog teams in order to take plenty of grab traps and stretchers. This would mean a trip of five hundred miles with double tripping from Fort Yukon we had to Toboggans is one ten feet in one seven feet long fanny would use the smaller one four dogs in hall. The baby's betting stove intent. I was to haul dog feed grub traps etc.. My Toboggan was sixteen inches. Wide fannies is fourteen inches inches wide. I also hauled a large canvas to make a Scou- to float down the Crowe River after ice went out when we were planning this trip. A lot of the old timer said we've never make it and if we did make it we've never stand the climate it was tough country alright alright almost treeless snow blowing in making drifts so one could hardly cut them with an axe and blizzards that blew snow through tents but we figured if trappers have made it in years past. We should be able to stand it too. That's a good outlook. Hey someone else I figured it out someone else will do. We ought to be able to do it right. That's that's a tough people say that that's funny. All Right Chapter six the crow flats. We finally got started on our long trip to the crow flats on April first I had already moved six hundred pounds of our stuff as far as Schuman house which used to be a small Indian settlement seventy miles from Fort Yukon. I use the seven dogs in my large Toboggan with this load. I went along quickly making the trip in four days. I let the dogs rest one day before leaving for Yukon are loads were not too heavy from Shuman House. We moved to a place called old village and other deserted Indian settlement twenty miles from Shuman House. Each of these way places had at least one old tin stove in them left there by trappers who traveled up and down the porcupine river their windows had been broken years before stopping. One of these cabins was just a bit better than camping out in the Open Finian. The two youngsters stayed in one well. I went back with the dogs to Shuman House bringing forward the goods we had left there. We tried after that to make it a practice of not making over fifteen miles a day. This would allow meter round trip the next day we had to set up tent and stove if we stopped if no old cabin was available. The next deserted village was called burnt paw. This was over twenty miles above old village. This made a long.