Listen: Jason, Ryan Jen And Google discussed on The Jordan Harbinger Show
"Of your questions here on feedback Friday all right. What's next pig is? I'm forty and I've worked at the same company doing the same thing for twenty years. I make decent money not wealthy by any means but enough to pay the bills. I grew up poor so anything more than forty thousand a year seems amazing to me really. Here's the thing I hate my job. It's boring the people are awful. My boss is awful. The policies are awful. I sit in my cubicle. The last two hours of every day just praying time goes by faster so I can get the hell out of there for the day. My current careers extremely specialized in my choices for moving to another company are slim to none and frankly. I don't even want to do this anymore recently. I've gotten very interested in cybersecurity after listening to you and some other podcasts that I found it just sounds like it would be so much fun but I don't know much about it other than what I've heard from shows and read online. I know that I have none of the skills needed and it will require that. I learn a lot of new things but I'm actually okay with that. I started teaching myself to code and I'm reading books on Social Engineering and I'm finding it a lot of fun and exciting. The scary part is that I can't afford to take a pay cut my wife and I make just enough to pay our bills and anything less will hurt us and did I mention. I'm forty. How do you change careers at forty? Is that even possible? The thought of even more student loan debt makes me WANNA cry. I started taking your networking course. But it's been difficult. I didn't realize how few people I know that I don't work with it. Seems like all of my Texan email context or co workers. And when I made the list of ten people I would call. If Shit hit the fan I came up with three and couldn't think of anyone else I feel trapped like I'm stuck at my job rotting until the end of time. What can I do? How do I grow my network? How do I figure out what to learn? How do I actually? I think I just did that thing. You guys talk about where I'm writing. I figured out what I need to do. We should do on my own. But I think I'm still going to send this anyway just to hear your two cents. Thanks guys I totally love. You stuck in confused but hopeful now. Well I love people who answer their own questions through the thought process of writing the question down and that happens all the time actually so I appreciate that and I think a lot. There's a lot of value in articulating. What you want and writing the questions down as if you're going to send them to somebody because often you think of the answer before you click send but to your question. It's not too late at all to change careers. Second acts in life are very common. If you want more on this you can check out. Lord gassner audience episode on. The show was just a couple of weeks ago and she's got her book as well called limitless. I would totally hire a forty year old to learn something new for sure. I'm forty I routinely have to master. New SKILL SETS here in my own business. You're not too old. You just feel like you might be because you're so bored at work that you can't imagine getting excited about something at work to learn a new skill. I think that's probably what's going on. I think a lot of times when you're really really bored doing what you do. You think I can't just retrain. I can't learn something new because you can't even think about being energetic enough to pick up something new and I just got a letter from someone in their sixties. Who changed careers this year in large part because of six minute networking skills and wrote into share that? So you're not too late at all Jason Cybersecurity this sort of your area. You know more about it than I do. But you've mentioned that cybersecurity jobs are insanely hot right now. They can't hire fast enough. Right is at am. I on the right page here. Yeah they have basically a one hundred percent higher rate right now. They need butts in seats and judge just to mention on your your changing careers at forty. I was forty one and had been a programmer for over twenty years and I completely changed careers to become a professional podcasters. So yeah it can be done easily. It just dwell not so easily but if you're motivated enough you can put in the work but there are tons of cybersecurity resources out there for you to learn. I will put some in the show notes. I have a list. We talk about this grumpy old geeks quite a bit but there are a bunch of resources where you can get free education actually in some cases from like the Department of Defense there are a lot of hacker tools out there that you can learn the basics and yea it's totally doable. And it's a great space and you know right now since pretty much everybody's probably GonNa be hunkered at home for a couple of months. You have some time on your hands to stay up late at night and put in that time learning it and maybe switch up and get a job when this whole thing's over my buddy of VP. Google he said that cybersecurity folks make him chuckle a bit because they're being hired so fast that people will pay to move them across the country. They'll give him an advance. They'll pay for their schooling certifications a lot of time but they always think before they get the job that like. Oh I don't know I'm twenty seven. I'm too late. I don't have any experience. It's going to be impossible to get the job. And then the companies like you want to work fulltime for us in Milwaukee Cool. Here's an advance. Here's your here's your cost of living allowance all that stuff like that and my friend says they don't realize they're the homecoming queen. Like this is such a hot job right now. Yep totally besides with cybersecurity. You can work from home which you can't beat that these days often you can work from home not always but that's a good thing and a job these days. Okay Jay. What'S NEXT HI AL? I'm filmmaker and I work at my friend's home with our other friend. We work for the same company. My friend got me the job a few years back and I've been loving it ever since recently however there's been a bit of tension he's my boss and it can be weird to ride the line between boss and friend. Do you have any recommendations on how to handle the relationship like this? I want to keep our friendship intact but also keep my job for the foreseeable future. One example of a problem we have is once an hour. I like to stand up and just jogging in place for about five minutes. I know that's weird but it's a nice break from sitting and allows me to get my twenty thousand step goal for the day. He's recently been dropping multiple hints. That it's annoying him and now. I'm nervous to continue. I feel like a small break. Every hour isn't a lot to ask for but maybe I'm wrong am I being entitled. He has a very strong work ethic and works nonstop all day. He even will continue to work after we all leave at five. I love my job but don't necessarily want to work like that as a friend. I'm also worried for him working so hard for so long. But how do I tell my boss slash friend that he's working too hard? Signed jogging on the job. Yeah well I asked Jen about this because I'm always working but also moving around a lot because I have a ton of energy. I also get ten thousand steps today so I vowed down to this. Guy's twenty thousand steps today. That is a taunt of walking. That's I think I usually walk like six to eight miles a day to get ten K. steps so for twenty k. That's like fifteen miles jason. I know you get a ton of steps What do you do on your treadmill desk? I don't do that much on my treadmill desk anymore. Because it's been nice out and I just go outside and actually put treadmill desk away to make make me go outside but Yeah this guy is doing twenty thousand steps a day and for me. That is about nine miles. So that's about it it depends on your stride length and I'll tell you are and stuff but I'm six feet tall and twenty thousand steps for me is right around nine miles chase. Yeah so imagine twenty K. steps outsides. Probably at least ten just because I think you take longer strides when you're outside powering through buddies jogging in place anyway. That's neither here nor there. This is a ton of walking or in this guy's case jogging in place and Gen said I can't help but laugh at this question because it's something that would probably bug me too. It's like when you sit across from me and shake your leg so I- bounce my leg sometimes when. I'm Mike really energetic. I'm on my computer. 'cause I gotta move around Ryan Jen Crazy insane so for me I get it. I would say go do it in the garage. Go Jug outside. Don't jog in the place where everyone else is working. I wouldn't mind personally. And maybe you know your boss can get some. Dang noise cancelling headphones or something. Look the other way but people who are getting annoyed. I think there's a bit. There's a little bit. People secretly want to be annoyed by things. I think it's a subconscious addiction because he can't stop paying attention and that results in a break in his focus which then resents so he resents the break in focus. Nobody really cares what you're doing but I would say you're not acting entitled for wanting a break every hour to not sit in a chair at a computer that's completely normal. Certainly healthy to move around like that and if you need to do it. It's your right to do it as for your boss being a workaholic though. There's nothing that you can do for that. There's nothing you should do about that if he owns the company. Nothing you do or say is going to be construed as goodwill in fact if he owns the company his singular focus is making that company successful. So anything you say about working less is just going to reflect poorly on you and on your work habits. Even though that isn't really fair if someone tells me I'm working too hard I will literally never listen. That has to be something I enforce on myself. If someone who works with me tells me I'm working too hard. I will take it as intended but a few years ago. I probably would have assumed they were trying to get work less so that they could also work less. And that's not really something you want your boss to have in his head about your work ethic so jog outside. You're entitled to that but let your boss worked himself to death if he wants to do it as business owners are often obsessed with our own thing anyway and we'd rather do that than do anything else but jog outside. Man Joe got side. You need a job in the kitchen seriously. At least just don't in the same room with them. You know. Yeah I can see that being weird I can see that being weird because it makes noise in your sort of bouncing around like should he turn around anything door it probably but you should probably just also just do it outside and to be fair we would tell you a while back when you were working too hard to take a break because you just turned into a jerk sometime. So maybe that's what's going on with his buddy. Yeah it might be. Yeah like I definitely need to like. Go outside go to the gym and stuff and take a break but the whole like you know. I'm still working at seven. Thirty eight o'clock and someone's like you're working too hard if it's my wife fine but if it was somebody who worked with me I'd be like Yeah maybe you're not working hard enough you know like maybe that's what's wrong you know. I'm getting everything done so I wouldn't tell your boss. He's working too hard and he's going to. He's going to burn out 'cause he's not going to burn out most likely he's just going to think that you don't want to work hard. I don't know there's kind of no way for you to win that one. Kobe my room my friend. What's that again like? Twenty two notes the unwinnable situation from Star Trek. Oh yeah all right Jason. What's next deer Jordan? I just listened to your episode on how to ask for advice and it spurred a question that I would like to get your thoughts on. I have a great job and a big part of it is the relationships I've built in my community for decades love to serve as a sort of mentor for young men and women who I meet in my day to day life in one advice. I'm also happy to meet with people that someone from my network asks me to."