Ned Johnson, Evanston, New York Times discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

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William sticks root, welcome to one point great to have you. Thanks so much. So thirty percent of college freshmen don't return to colleges sophomores that really get your attention that number. What are what's behind that statistic to your mind? I think it's very complicated. And I think that many of the kids that I see who have anxiety disorders learning disabilities. ADHD th they don't have the academic competencies related to to to to manage college independently. I think there's also a huge mental health crisis on college campuses. So vulnerable kids, go to college, and because college environments are so just regulated in terms of sleeping, and drinking and putt smoking that for many vulnerable kids, they just can't manage the lack of structure, the lack of predictability. And certainly the party culture of college. Some kids can't handle that and the disrupted sleep that somebody has experienced in college another huge factor. So it's a highly distributed environment. But as you sent the mental health picture for young people has changed dramatically in the last twenty five years. Tell me more about that. What are you saying? Well, certainly there's there's research suggests that people in the early two thousands that high older high school students and college students were five to eight ties more likely to report symptoms of anxiety disorder or major depression than people were at the height of the great depression during World War Two during the Cold War, it even the last five to seven years. There's evanston. There's been a dramatic increase innings -iety and depression in high school kids, and in college kids, and so you write in your piece in the New York Times with regard to these college freshman who are not returning as sophomores, you say, many, parents and presumably college students think of. Getting into college as the finish line of a race in many ways. That's really not the case. Tell me about that. Well, many kids it certainly certain parts of this country, including the DC area where I live many kids think many parents think the most important outcome of addle essence is getting into the most elite college possible. And and I think that from my angle angle, my co-authored Ned Johnson of our book, we think the most important outcome is still developing healthy brand and many things that kids have to do to get into colleges are not good for the brand such as such as sleeping six hours. A night is senior most high school seniors now average somewhere between six and six and a half hours of sleep where they need nine and a quarter not to feel tired such as just a workaholic kind of schedule very very high levels of stress and sleep deprivation and really a formula for developing anxiety disorders or depression is..

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