Doctor Hicks, Hicks Clinic, Georgia discussed on TV Literate
Watching trashy TV. Without shame or judgment. I'm Dylan and I'm Megan. So Megan one of you've been watching. Let's see I'm trying to think like this week has just been like a blur. I don't I don't even. It's really gotten away from me somehow. It's it's been a rough week. I don't even know why but it's just I don't know but let's see I've been watching so I haven't really been keeping up with the new season of ninety day. Be Theon say before the ninety days so I got caught up on that and that's been quite good quite quite entertaining so I started. I started watching a new like teen comedy on Netflix. It's called never have I ever which was created by Medicare link the office and the mini project and it. I only watched like three or four episodes. But it's just about like an Indian American teenage girl that wants to be popular but is not and it's I really liked the first few episodes I watched. So that's been fun. Nice yeah but What about you? What have you been watching? Have Still Been Watching Star Trek. It's comfort food. I get I get that completely. We all we all have those shows that you watch when you just need something. That's comfortable and easy but still you know it's going to be amazing. The payoff is going to be there. I yes everything will end up all right. Even though it's stressful. Yes exactly you know you know everything will be okay in the end. That's all that matters. Yeah other than that washed a whole lot of dateline last weekend just really got on a kick after we recorded and then I was like I gotTa Watch Eighteen datelines. Yes yeah I I. Yeah but last week's new dayline wasn't very good wasn't very exciting. Very disappointing. Disappointing Other than that. I've just kind of been surfing the the trash waves on like Pluto. Devi if I see something on I think we put on an episode of. It's not next but it's the other dating show the MTV that's two words is the parental control. Yeah Yeah I love that show. It's like where the parents pick the day. Oh my God yes I remember. I just for some reason. There's this one episode that is distinctly imprinted in my mind of these two like alternative cool people on a date and they get Mega like lip. Tattoos like inside. Their lips like matching. Wow that was an early two thousands relic for sure Yeah but yeah. That's like imprinted on my mind forever. So I just associate that show with lip tattoos. Seriously I understand. I know such a weird show the one that I remember the most is where like they went on a date to go paint balling and they ended up shooting the crap out of each other. I don't know it was so much I do remember that. Did you see that. The Pentagon is essentially confirmed. Ufo's I did see that. I haven't like dug deep into it but I have seen the buzz about the UFO's and that is very exciting. I know and it's amazing that we're just like you know what you might exist but we gotta get out of our houses. Yes Yeah Yeah Yeah. I was superstar because I watched the one. Tom Delong leaked the one. The videos that have now confirmed and those are some well videos. Yeah I haven't really watched them but I have to watch them because that's really cool. That's exciting I saw tweet. I don't know why this made me think of a tweet. That was like why do people call them? Unidentified FLYING OBJECTS THEIR UFO. They're not identified. We know what they are gone. All right so what? We're talking about this week in what we mostly watched yesterday and the day before taken at birth on Hulu which originally aired in October of last year but just came on to Hulu on the first of April. It was wild. Y'All it was crazy and so it originally aired on TLC. And I think it's this was so different from anything I've seen from. Tlc Yeah just the how it was. How the entire show is different. Not only to the subject matter but just how it played out how investigated things I felt like it was really well done production and it was way more dateline than acting from TLC. I felt like it was a pretty thorough investigation and I feel like they kind of tried to get all different viewpoints in there which I appreciate it a lot. Yeah I was curious about that especially since all Tiger King Hullabaloo and I was googling everything I read like the original Nineteen ninety-seven article when they I figured out that he'd been doing that nursing and like they really didn't leave anything out like or direct us into any way other than the fact that he was doing it. He did it. The facts like the did do this. He did have this Ella. At least one illegitimate child so these are just fact for everyone. Here on is spoilers for the show a Some people's lives so I guess it's not really a spoiler It's it's done happened but if you want to get the full story and the full the full what's the word I'm looking for. Experience the full experience. Yes thank you. Yeah because it's there's a loss of twists and turns. They did a lot of stuff and a lot of information was revealed and found which was cool. I liked that it was a short series but a lot of stuff happened in that series. Yeah there were only a few times where I felt. Like the T. L. Seeing of it where it's like only twenty minutes. It comes in it but we've got a bump at that extra five minute break like artsy shots of a parked car. Oh yes I mean. They have to do that sometimes every TLC contract it's like you have to have these exact shots in in or else it will not be admissible you've got to have five minutes of b-roll per hour or else cut me exactly. Yeah there's gotTa be some downtime for you to go and get chips from the kitchen or something. You know true true all right. So do you WanNa do a summary or you want me to do a summary. I can start and then we can kind of pass off if we want so. Take it at birth tells the story of the Hicks Clinic which was in Mackay's Ville. Is that what it's calling? Mccain Casal Georgia and it operated in the nineteen fifties and sixties and there was a lot of kind of sketching us going on and it was kind of revealed that he was essentially doing like back. Door adoptions and then it was revealed that not all of the people who had the babies knew that their babies were adopted. Some of them thought they were getting abortions and their kids were stillborn even though they were wanted child right. So there's all the scratchiness behind that and at the take birth Docu series. I suppose Documents some of the kids who came out of the Hicks Clinic discovering their identities essentially and trying to figure out what happened and if they have any actual biological ties and all kinds of stuff. Yeah starts out with one of the kids Jane Blasi. Oh she's the one who actually blew the whole thing wide open because she figured out she was adopted and then her mom wouldn't talk about it and she eventually talked to her dad after her mom passed and then she was like all right well. Let's see my birth certificate. It says Doctor Hicks. Where'd you guys go in there? Like the case bill inception drove down their age. Nineteen that woman has some balls? Let me tell Ya. Like there's part of the thing where she's talking about. How she here's a shot gun rack at her when she's looking through a window night and the essentially had to like back. Elliott talked to someone. Yeah it's it's great. It's that was one of the biggest surprise to me was how the secret of the Hicks Clinic seemed to be so well known within the community like a lot of people knew not probably all the details but essentially what was going on but it was still so closed off and it was like never talked about it was never really brought up and I think that that is insane. Yeah no I mean I was reading the original New York Times article from one thousand nine hundred seven when she told everybody and she and A judge finally figured out after they pulled all the birth records from Mackay's Ville. That was the part that they didn't look super clarify in the show but like her and a judge went and looked through all of the birth certificates from fifty one to sixty five like everywhere when they were registered with Georgia like. Why are people coming down to Georgia from you know Scottsdale Arizona and from Michigan just to have babies in the middle of pretty much nowhere? It's lots of little towns but it's not like going to Atlanta. Yeah that's insane. I just and not only that but just the amount of work that has gone into. This investigation is just mind blowing out of. I can't imagine how many like man hours total have spent have been spent on all of this stuff because not only. Is it finding out who was who were the babies but it's also finding out. Who are the baby's parents also finding out what happened? What were the circumstances behind the birth and it's like racing a ticking clock because no one's getting younger exactly like the kids were born in the fifties and sixties so many of their birth parents are either passed on or about to pass on. Yeah so that's so scary. And it was heartbreaking. They talked about how multiple times these Hicks babies is. What they were called would find their birth parents and it would be like a month after they passed away. That's a heartbreaking to any of them find a living parent. Oh yeah that one lady did the guy who wouldn't meet her. Yeah the hugest bummer. I get it but also yeah And then yeah. I felt bad for her a lot. That was really sad but I mean I do. I don't know it's it's a complicated situation It is and it's it's wild and entertaining but also supergrass saying but also I think a lot of the like secrecy was kept because the people of McCain's bill felt like it was like a duty. I guess because it's like Bible Belt Railroad keeping all these girls from getting abortions race. Yeah that's I thought that this. This story just brought up so many complicated about abortion in general and it just yet it all. I think it all goes back to that. Really is abortion and this stigma behind abortion and not being able to get safe abortions and especially in fifties and sixties the double edged sword of just existing as a woman because God forbid you get pregnant out of wedlock but God forbid that you abort that baby right. Yeah so I think my biggest beef with Dr Hicks through all of this is that he like convinced people to have the babies or adopted. The baby's kind of in a shady acres adoption is very expensive. It's not an easy process for anybody and you have to have so much visibility to like adopt out a baby. Yeah that's what I appreciated that. The show talk to some of the parents who did adopt through the Hicks family and like Damn expressing how they had tried option. They had done everything they could and they could still not get a baby. This is literally the only way they got a baby because looking at looking at the situation it seems like who would who would sign up to get a baby from that like. That's so sketchy but then you. I'm so glad that they had that viewpoint expressed because it does make a little bit more sense obviously is..