Marijuana, Hong Kong, One Day discussed on Townhall Weekend Journal
I have as my special guest west burying who is the host of the people's voice. Welcome to the program. Thank you. Well, I'm really excited to have you on the program in this is our second episode with you. So let's talk a little bit about what you are doing since you moved on from that entrepreneurial piece of your life. Or what was it like with the transition because you come off of many years of working working hard growing this into a sixty million dollar business? And then you change. Yeah. I didn't know that you didn't have to get up at seven o'clock. I didn't before. That for a long time. And that was that was interesting just the fact that I didn't have all that pressure on of what needed to be done next still get up early though. I know what I I don't I don't think I do. I get up at eight o'clock now great. So it's a whole different whole different world. But my wife is still up before. I am. Was it was it was it hard to transition. From being. You're always on the go, you got people and resources, and this was a global business. So you had so I mean, it wasn't just here. Local. It was global, you know, that's not necessarily easy to the some things. I was really surprised about having to go get gas in my car that was a new thing to do. I don't have anybody that you know, that I can call on to help me with things, you know, when I need done. You know, the breakfast doesn't just appear at work in the morning know, all those little things were a little. No, it was it was it really was a good experience for me. I had some really good people. I've known who've been retired for a long time. I have a friend of mine who's who's been retired for more years than he's worked. And I had been listening to them for several years prior to this. And I used to think that when you retired that you that you die the next week or something. They do. It's interesting. I I really thought that's the way it was, you know, and I never even gave it any consideration. But I did come to know a few people over the years. That that had retired are retired. And that retired very young and. That made a big difference for me because I was able to see that. It is something that you can do some that you can enjoy it can be just as fruitful and just as exciting as any other part of the light life, even more south, right? And it's good that you have that. Because you can kind of see the next steps ahead. Sometimes we can only see little bit the head. But have that perspective? It helps your mind orient early on to how things will change because I mean, I'm sure that's had an impact on your family too. Because suddenly sure well, everybody sees each other a lot more. Your voice and your wife, you know. So it's it's different for everybody. Well, I've always been a dog person. And I've always loved my dogs. German shepherd. I do not now. I wish I did. But we sometimes you have to compromise a family, you know, and we have a we have an English bulldog right now. And it's the most stubborn dog that I've ever had. And I've I've always had very well trained dogs. And always you'd think they want you want them to do when they would do it. Right. And this guy he he knows what you want. But he doesn't want the same thing. You know? So it's it's I'm having a real pleasurable time playing with my dog baby. Yeah. We got him as a puppy. And and that was that was really probably our fault that he's a stubborn puppy school. No, I had taken. I I really do know how to but talk about that bed. This guy knows how to train people. So he's he's really got things run run. And just the way up to the word bulldog. I never really knew what all that meant. You know, I get up. I make breakfast for him. You know? So via the way round. I'm having a very very very good time really enjoying myself with this time, you had some time to write this book yet big things have small beginnings. Did you do that right away? When you retired. I didn't do it right away. But I did it probably probably about a year after or maybe a little bit less. But yeah, I I did it early on. But you know, I can stain just as busy. Yeah. Different thing. Yeah. Just a mix. Right. And then I started the the radio show that I'm doing what did you talk a little bit about that. It's called the people's voice. Yeah. And it it what what is it about? Well, I wanted to why radio did you decide to do this in the first place? Well, I've always been told that I have a face for radio. So I thought that I capitalize on that end. TV to his all these clips on. So here here's what what what happened. I was thinking about what I would want to see in a in a program or here in a program. And I really wanted to I'm tired of hearing the polarization of reporting and news and topics, and if you turn on the radio or the television or the radio reopen the paper, it's either all this or it's all that. There's none of this and that anymore, and it's very frustrating. And I think a lot of people. I thought I thought people always say that they want people to handle the issues and talk about them. Without? That's the problem. Do they really is that what they really want? That's what they say they want. But do they want it? Everybody says they want they want the traffic to go nice and smooth and everything but everybody slows down to watch the accident. You know? So you know, I thought it'd be worth trying anyways. And we're doing it. We try to disagree without being disagreeable. Yeah. Love that. So we my my sons have heard me say that many times over the years, but nonetheless, we try to have someone who's going to represent a more left leaning view on an issue and someone with the more right leaning view on an issue, and we have people calling in and we try to get through it. And so what I did was I'm fortunate because I have a lot of friends from different points of view, and I have friends they're still your friend in the really important and they've been friends forever. So. Diverse group of friends allow me to pull on someone that people that I have relationships with friends and still talk with them about difficult things. And let's let's what did she share some of the topics because these are difficult subjects wanted to share some of the things that you've covered in the past few months. Well, during the the the recent election, we talked a lot about whether or not marijuana should be legalized or whether it shouldn't be legalized, and we had people from both sides of that issue. And again, I belong to a lot of organizations and it belonged to him over the years. And I had a good associated mine who represent who is working for the organization that represented the anti. Marijuana. And I had a good friend of mine that was representing the pro, you know, so I called them. Both had them come on the show at different times. It was very interesting, and it was all over with. We're still friends. They're still friends, and I don't think you would have found that many other places and a lot of that has to do with some of the groups I belong to like rotary clubs optimist clubs, and I'm also very active in in the Masons, and the Masons are fraternal paternity. And they don't talk about you know, religion or politics in the meetings. But they talk about it afterwards, maybe or having coffee with each other. So I developed lots of long-term relationships with men who I knew for who they were who they what they they espouse, right? Gave me an opportunity to get different points of view in a more rational way. What was it that? Like, why did you like you could've picked a lot of different things to talk about on radio. What was it about? This is where these issues that have always been important to you. Well, I wanted them to issues there that caused controversy. Okay. You want to just go right for it. Right. Immigration, this issue about a wall or not a wall marijuana marrow. So we take controversial issues. We take the sort of things that are hard to talk about. And they are they're really hard very country apart, right? And especially after forty years in business. You would never have seen. You know, what side of the political spectrum? I was on or on any issue because it just isn't good business to engage in that. And so I thought you know, I think it's time for. Handling of issues like that, but handling of them in respectful ways. Now, sometimes we get off track a little bit. And we have some people who call in get a little more excited than they should. But we try to bring it back to that. And we try to start the show or in the show with something that everybody agrees about. The the most recent show we did start with a discussion about that. The the politicians are are being too polarizing rather than training to resolve the issue. Right. And I've really come to the conclusion that not all, but a lot of politicians are are interested in solving problems that don't exist or coming up with solutions that don't work for problems that do exist because they don't really seem to wanna make the problem. Go away. They seem to just want to have something to campaign on into into to drum up, and that's got to change at some point. At least a little bit. I mean, it's it's also part of our of our of our country's heritage that we don't want government that's to efficient. We don't want to find ourselves driven into a situation where you were you have the totalitarian of the majority. People don't always understand what that means. They said, well, what do you mean? You don't want the totalitarian the majority you what the majority to what? But what if the majority decides bald guy shouldn't get to eat? You know, that's not good. I wouldn't like that. So you have to be careful because they're the clamor isn't always the right answer. And that's why the wheels of our country do move slowly, but they need to still move, and we need to talk and discuss and be mature about it, absolutely important. And I can tell you like I did listen to a few samples because I wanted to be prepared for today's interview. And I have to tell you my heart was like a little tight listening because I was like, I hope. This is I can handle this because I get very filled with things -iety when I hear people fight. And I are here name calling or see it in the media. I can't take that that is unprofessional. It's not kind. It's not it's not carrying towards your fellow man or woman. I don't I can't deal with it. And it was just so at least for the I listen to different samples. I was like, wow. They're having a discussion. This is great. I really liked that during the during the cabinet appointment. We were able to talk through that issue. And we didn't always agree. And we we were able to discuss it and respect each other's viewpoints. And some people can't even do that in their own house. And you know, I mean. When when my kids were little we'd want them to argue pro and con on the same issue. So you know, one day it was my wife is from Hong Kong. So one day. It was the pros of chopsticks over forks and the next day. It would have to be forks over chaps. Just for fun to understand that they have to be able to articulate both sides of issue in order to understand it helps you understand other people and other situations. And I remember in the book, you had mentioned that in high school you in forensics that you would practice with both pro and the con was like because you need to do that. When you're I mean, you can't argue unless you really know the other side, right? It the best negotiators. So you must have been amazing. Because of that skill and I don't they don't even have friends in high school. Do they think they I think they do?.