Heidi Stevens, Chicago Tribune, Krista Tippett discussed on Anna Davlantes


Four o'clock today. Thank you for joining us. Everybody. 312981 72 100 is the team Hochberg phone line? That's where we bring in Heidi Stevens. From your Chicago Tribune. Heidi, You've got some resolution article. Of course, I think that's mandated that everybody has to do a resolution column before the end of the year that our contract you did this a little bit different this year, though, didn't you? Yeah, I did. I don't know. It feels almost like, um, a little excessive. I think Theo expect people to make resolutions after years trying and lousy and grief filled as 2020. But you know, at the same time, maybe it's the year we need a more than ever. Right? Um, I mean, we Certainly had a lot of extra time to kind of reflect, um On the meaning of it all are some invitations. T do so anyway. Um, yeah. I mean my resolutions this year a priest small. I wanna, um You know, hosts more general parties when it's safe. Wanna hug my parents? Stuff like that read more novels. But what end of writing about was The idea of Kind of some collective resolutions that I thought we could, you know, work on together and one of them that I was really inspired. I think more about, um, when I heard an interview with Bryan Stevenson, the author and lawyer. On Christmas Eve. I heard him interviewed on Krista Tippett's on being program, and he was talking about this notion of being a stone catcher. So everyone you know it's hard the parable about or at least the saying if it's not linked to the Bible, the way you've heard it, um, you know, let he who has Is without sin cast the first stone right? And his his anecdote was about how you know we live in a time where no one would think twice about throwing stones about whether that would make them hypocrites are now we sort of just go ahead and throw them and so You know, in response to that society needs to create some stone catchers and people who will go ahead and catch the stone from hitting the vulnerable and people who are served down in there. Lock even if they have No, I guess Cinder made some mistakes. Um It just was a really beautiful story of redemption and grace and mercy. And I thought, like gashes, so in such contradiction toe What Good. Dialogue feels like right now around us, especially around Cove it when we're like, remain each other about masks. And, um, you know, whenever I write about someone who died of covert, and I've written a lot of the stories this year, you know, I get it around of emails, sort of. You know, looking for ways to blame the person you know what they did wrong or how they were sort of like, you know about to die anyway, If you really think about it sort of assessing their worth as a human. It feels to me like and I don't know. I just would hope that we could do a little better and 2021. You wrote an article a while back about a TV show called One Day at a time. Was that a reboot of the Bonnie Franklin? One day at a time? Yeah, totally. Yeah. Rebeuh from the seventies, the one in the seventies. And so you were upset that they were letting it go because you and your daughter had really bonded and watch the binge. The show together. Are there moments like that that we can take out of this? Everything we've been through this year, all the ups and downs. You had covert. I mean, all the things that everybody collectively where they had covert or not suffered through in this year. Are there bright moments that we need to reflect upon and take with us as we move forward? Oh, my God. Absolutely. Absolutely. I think, don't you? I do. I do. I think it's just hard sometimes for us to stop and pause and say, Hey, there are good things that came out of this and we need to focus on those a little bit. Yeah, it is hard, And sometimes that can feel little indulgence, especially when you look at all this stuff lying around you. It's like, Oh, but let me look at the silver lining. You know, in the thing that killed 330,000 Americans like that feels gross, but at the same time and it is gross, but it's not necessarily You know, looking for a silver lining? That's as much as it is, Um, you know, remembering Tonto draw lessons. I think wherever we can, and you have to do that out of awful stuff is wallahs happy stuff, right? And, you know, I think your example of the Been rushing That flick with my daughter is a great one, because it's those simple things that mean the The removal of sort of the business of our lives has been huge for my family. I mean, we're obviously spending so much more time together just because my husband and I are working from home and my kids are learning from home. And so just those two things alone and they don't get to go play all their sports and do all the things that used to do. But exactly yeah, I mean, both my kids were really pretty highly scheduled, like both athletes and then debate team and all you know, like lots and lots of practices and activities. And, you know, friendships were very, very Packed with all of that stuff, and it's sort of all what proof in March and what we're finding is like we miss a lot of it and a lot of it. We don't miss. It's really nice to not Be in the car, headed somewhere all the time to just sit around and do like a puzzle or play a game or do nothing be. You know everybody on their own devices, but in the same room, even that's a nice sometimes. So, um, you know, my daughter and I take a tunnel walks together. Um, I don't. I don't want that to go away. There's a lot of stuff. I don't want to go away when the pandemic lift. Yeah, I think that what we need to think about or try to think about because here we get to this point where nine months in and the vaccine is coming, But we still need to wear masks and the vaccines ruling out slow..

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