Today. We're gonna be talking about this incredible women on a cans. I have to thank you first. And foremost she was never on my radar. And i don't think if he hadn't written into me she probably would have completely surpassed me and i'm so. I'm really grateful first and foremost that. You've brought this incredible women to my attention. But can i ask. Where did you come across. Ana oh gosh and quite a number of years back now. I'm my background is working in and talk. Raphy lots of different certify options medical photographer But in the past ten fifteen years. And i really went back to my first love of traditional doc processes an alternative photographic processes so those tend to be processes that might be made without a camera. Even so. that's where. I really found out about anorak kuenz because my passion for one of those processes which is the science type and what is the tape for anyone. That's perhaps never heard that term before. Well hopefully there's a slightly in the name in the sense that it process that produces blue and white images at the end of it and it's a sort of photograph process of contact. Printing was invented back in eighteen forty. Two an anna was one of the m well. In fact she's noted as being the first person to create a photographic book and it was with that process that she created that book. So yes it's really fascinating process for me. It's really important because he's probably one of the the least impact on on the environment as in you can wash and they make out in the ocean. If for instance. So that sort of my my interesting is while it speaks to so took trying to lessen my photographic footprint as well so yet to really beautiful process. It's one the can be ease ready simply you can. But it's not Pony different things that you can. You can do within wasif using it. It's been really fascinating. Actually because although it was never going to be because of the just the two tones it was never going to be taken on into the history of photography when when it was being invented and developed it really is such a beautiful process that in the lawsuit of since i've ready been working with it again. I've really known in the last few years that white people getting ready entrusted in it. You can use it with chiltern new. You know you can. So it's got so much scope really as a as a netflix process that you can do at home and it's such a simple process in its in. Its by be basic forms. While i think. That's what's really intriguing for me. A about the process of of of purchasing these and the first thing i came across it actually by the i work in a sculpture gallery and it was one of our artis that has created a couple of prince using the process and i had never heritage before it's so so fascinated by thank first and foremost really kind of talk about ana yet and who who was anna can on why she important while the me back in the in the anna lindh. She was born in seventeen at nine thousand nine and she died in eighteen. Seventy one victorian period and it was obviously a period when there was an awful lot of invention and discovery recent Across numerous scientific fields happening photography itself was invented and developed during that period photography as we know it now was invented at that time by i. Think for me with anna. It was because women in particular that time when not necessarily considered sort of science wasn't considered to suitable pastime for them to to take part in so for me having women in a position where they could actually push the boundaries and rock the boat to everyday life then obviously. She came from a wealthy a privileged background to although women as a whole had less opportunities. She did obviously have a slightly better opportunity than other women. In the sense that have farther was a scientist and he really encouraged her her education and shared his knowledge with when she was a child. Mother died not long after she was born so i think that they became quite a strong partnership as it were and she grew up with a passion the science and a passion for botany in particular So she was actually a botanist and also an artist as wow one of the things she did for her father. He translated a polk and she illustrated it which was all about shelves so she was very good drawing beautiful illustrations as well so she had all of those interests and passion. It wasn't intellectual when she was a little bit older that she discovered the type process and the had the opportunity to actually share a collection. She'd been collecting numerous earned plants. Flowers see like in a herbarium over the years and it wasn't until she. She made this discovery with family friends around the science type process that she she was able to then shed on a bigger