Northwestern University School Medicine Bobo, Donna Bridges, Professor discussed on Armstrong and Getty
Her recounting of a memory from thirty five years ago on his since we have no other evidence. Correct. Northwestern study came out in two thousand twelve blew my mind at the time. I found it disturbing. Frightening troubling. And just to recap briefly, if you've just joined us every time you remember an event from the past your brain networks change in ways that can alter the later recall of the event, thus the next time you remember, you're not recalling the original vent you remembering the previous memory. And the northwestern study showed this was a groundbreaker a memory Donna bridges post doctorate, fellow at Northwestern University school medicine Bobo, a memory is not simply an image produced by traveling back to the original event. It can be an image that is somewhat distorted because of the prior times you remembered it your memory of an event can grow less precise. Even to the point of being totally false with each retrieval. And the professor she was working with and she pointed out that it it's really troubling for witnesses giving testimony in criminal trials, maybe a witness remembers something fairly accurately the first time because his memories aren't that distorted after that it keeps going downhill. Then they go into some of the methodology and the number of people. They they did the studies with every single person showed this affect they said, it's really huge. Is there? I doubt this. It's really is troubling way beyond this case. It just why do we discuss things when I was a kid. I blank a why do we even engage in those sorts of conversations? Probably did something similar. I'm just saying close enough. Says the gal who is the head of the study when someone tells me that you're sure they remember exactly the way something happened. I just laugh. Memories aren't static. If you remember something in the context of a new environment and time or even if you were in a different mood, your memories might integrate the new information while for the study people were asked to recall, the location of objects on a grid bombed. I caught myself in one of these the other day over something inconsequential. But I said something, and then I realized later wait a second. That wasn't me that was this person. It was somebody else I know had that experience, and I told as my own, and if I hadn't like for some reason it had popped into my head from here on out. It would have been me. Yeah. It's really disturbing. And then a therapist told me about like how this happens with fear. So my fear of needles that I've got when you remember when I remember the the needle experience from when I was a kid. I'm not remembering that, I'm remembering the most recent time, I remembered it and remembering the fear, I get from the fears. She become afraid of the feeling of fear builds over time. That's what anxiety is to a large extent. So your fear. So why wouldn't that be the same thing with a traumatic event, you know, a sexual assault where your memory of it it grows right in intensity. Well, listen. This is not an argument now on Saturday, the other of the cavenaugh -solutely because what happened is not only unknown. It is unknowable, but. It's possible. For instance, your needle thing, you're not nearly as terrified at the time as you remembered being years later, almost certainly not which is because with your greater age and maturity. You'd think we'll that would just be silly to be that afraid. So it must have been really crazy is you're telling the story, which again is disturbing and troubling original their names. I've heard the example of when Kennedy shot or nine eleven attacks. Where were you? How'd you hear about it? They've they've pulled. They've asked people and ask them again five years later, and it changes significantly Murray. Which is crazy. It is. And I'm just telling you, this gal may have endured precisely what she described which is awful and scary and disturbing disappointing in one hundred dollars things. But not only is it unknowable toss. It's not even knowable to her exactly what happened especially given three and a half decades passing. Well, it was three decades when she talked to her therapist embarrassed is three decades time passing a fifteen year old girl with a beer inner and a couple of stumbling drunk teenage boys. The actuality what happened is on notes. So if you had a strong memory from your childhood, I have a few doesn't have to be traumatic. But it's just. Birthday party where this happened or something a fishing trip? Whatever it was and then you saw video of it. And it was completely different. Would that like break your brain? I think it might break. My brain all these years. I remember dad, and I do that never happened at all. Some sort of matrix weirdness where you don't have any idea. What's real? And what's not? Seems to be based on that study. What is the case? We just don't have the reality ever presented to us. You know, what I think I'm maybe in the future will with so many kids growing up like my kids with videotape of so many of their iphone recordings of so many of their experience. How interesting point now. If I were gonna comfort myself, and I have to because I find all this so disturbing, particularly as a guy was not a great memory. I would I would say to myself. I am saying to myself. We have the greatest brain. On earth among any beast. That's ever roam the earth. Most most on average. I'm not sure there are probably some really break chimps or Saint of the radio says you. Right. I'm sure there are chimpanzees smarter than and were designed the way we're designed, and it works the way it works. And that's the way it's meant to work. That's the best. It can work. It only had to work as good. It was working to get you up to like fifteen so you could reproduce after that nature. Didn't care. Nature's bastard. So you know, when I look back at my first kiss. Maybe the circumstances were a little different still.