UK, Mexico, United States discussed on Stance
Am helping people to see things from plus it they find goal and make them happy. That's makes me happy. My name is mighty. SORTA know so I am from what a Lahar out. That's in Mexico and I. Am an English teacher, but right now my coordinator at a language center. I'm feeling a little bit stress. I normally work at enough face, but right now I have to do everything from home and I have all the students parents teachers calling me every single moment at thousand emails. But I am also happy because I have a lot of time for me. My life is not very social normally at I. do enjoy shopping so right now. I have to do it online, and it's not the same feeling, so that's the thing that I really means the most going shopping. Here. I have noticed it I am very organized. That's something that I normally don't use US an addictive to describe myself because I normally have things all over the place. Is kind of an organization because I can get everything done at the moment has to be done. Any doesn't have to be all in the order that someone else wants. It has to be in my order. Here in Mexico. Social contact is very very important. We are very fun of having people around as of making parties of. Going out of France in that something that we as a human context. We've just heard from Mirasol Rosarno Greta Lahara Mexico. You. Our Koha in some Paulo Brazil Maggie Chang in Hong Kong China Isabel Pittman in Drum France Sarah Pollen, who lives in you-you'd Barley and Grace Naballah in compiler Uganda thanks to all of you, and if you want to share a recording, these goto starts podcast dot com, the contact us page would absolutely love to hear from you. So across the world cove in nineteen is exposed racial inequality, which we knew is always there, but it seems to the first time we are seeing real time data is laying bare. The discriminatory effects black people face in the UK, and in the US now in the UK. We are four times more likely to die during covid nineteen, according to our own figgers at stones, you wanted to discuss the data with a UK focus and wanting to find out how it can inform decisions now as well as interrogate. What is she missing? I'm joined by SINEAD. Dennis, who's biochemist's journalist and campaigner. Campaigner she works in Healthcare Research, managing and setting up clinical research partnerships in the UK based in any hospitals. She's joined by Charlene. Prempeh who has worked at some of the top media and arts companies in cultural and digital marketing, including the Guardian BBC freeze, and she writes in a freelance capacity on black culture. Last year she launched Vibe Khoo teck to address the absence of black voices in technology conversations I started by asking them. If they're surprised to find that black people in the UK were four times more likely to die Toco vid nineteen as soon as I heard that before. I knew that this was come in like many of these is. That people are disproportionately affected, and when you look at the underlying causes of why that people have west help healthcare outcomes, and he's just been triggers for Covid, so for example, the mistrust between the black community and healthcare professionals, so actually not always believe in the message is that healthcare professionals are delivering or actually engage in any of information that comes from healthcare professionals was always going to be an issue in a cave nineteen, and that's something that we've seen in the leave his community in the sequel community. Community Diabetes Diabetes Community that the messages from healthcare professionals just didn't seem to reach these communities as effectively to get a bit more into that as well know why. It doesn't reach different communities, and if more communities are in quote to reach an all that kind of stuff and but Charlie. What do you think when you heard these stats? What? What were you thinking? So compete the same Schnee when I heard the stats, I I wasn't surprised at all actually initially, when as if you guys remember? At the end of March right at the beginning of this Kayla Williams. Passed away, and she was a black woman who was suffering from covid nineteen symptoms when she called the ambulance services. They told her that she wasn't a priority and that she should stay at home and just kind of self medicate. and. She died kind of quite soon after that, and soon as that happened I kind of just fell immediately that there was going to be a kind of train of black deaths, either going to be because we weren't being listened to in the right way, all kind of ideas that knaves just raised about the negative mistrust because I think they've kind of the multiple reasons. Why Black people dying more than other races as of nineteen and then not just at nineteen, but you said people die more. I should die more generally so. We audley there was a report that came out with few weeks ago, an ATS for Paul from Nuffield in Oxford's showing that black people just die more, and for some kind of slipped under the radar, and we all know that about black women and five times more likely to die in childbirth white women. So this is just another example of that. What sort of data you think we're missing when we're talking about black women and and pregnancy how we're five times more likely and tell me about that moment when you remember hearing that information and connecting it to yourself, so I've got quite still opinions about this. Because like I've been I've been looking into it quite adept so I go in terms of what kind of data we missing. Missing basically all the data that will help us understand the problem right now. We've got to quantitative data, so we know we know that statistic. We know that we're more likely to die, but we don't have any of the more granular information as to why that might be and that kind of information going to be much more kind of qualitative, so that I talk to people understanding what kind of care. CARE, they've had an understanding specifically, actually how that care differs to our white counterparts, and that's really what I think is the problem in terms of meeting data here as well as in other issues with lack health is that we've got the kind of top headline information, but we don't have any understanding of the nuances which making those things happen, and even when we controlled fins like socioeconomic disadvantage and education. Poverty, etc, we still don't have a clearer picture. What we need to do is speak to the community more as well as the people treating us to get a deeper understanding of what all the underlying issues are I luckily has about the statistic ofter attacked Lucky. Lucky my son, because I think if I'd have gone in to the whole process knowing the I with more likely to die. The stress. And anxiety that would have caused. Would been kind of awful. But when I heard it again, I wasn't particularly shocked like my interaction with the party to that for my own health or the health of family members. You kind of saw, there were kind of casual at credit. Casually racist moments in between all of that. We're though like assume you have high blood, pressure or seem. You have a bad diet that you eat too much salt, or they'll be tune in scientific way. It might speak to middle class. White person so yeah, it was. It was awful awful to hear, but it wasn't a shock, but as surely mistaken I was just him not alone, because this or things I considered matter before, and when we think about women to be more likely to die Intel. Breath again. We have these facts. We have these figures, but we don't have any evidence to support a better way, and that's what really worries me..