Nasa, Robert, Dave discussed on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory
Where Nashville comes for talk. Talk radio. Fifteen ten wwl AC. Welcome back to coast to coast AM, all it was due sky. Got it right there on Twitter. That was Zach wild with his cover version of come together. Pretty cool. All right. Robert, let's get back to the phone calls. And we've got a lot to get in here. And I wanna go let's see let's go out west Mike in Reno Nevada. You're up next on coast to coast. Welcome thanks to a couple of quick questions. Would it be necessary or advantageous to I build a moon base? Is there healing suite on the moon? And Secondly this puzzles me greatly. I think I'm correct on this the Russians have never left earth orbit with a man craft. I don't know if it's the van Allen belts. I don't know why and getting controversial. If I may, you know, we have a lot of political divisions in this country. I don't think we could do anything. And and I find it interesting. I two nations in space when non-christian and in a sense our capitalist, Nazi Germany and communist Russia. So I'm looking at China, and I'm looking at India. I know that's a strong statement. But at least the first two questions, Robert thank you for that. Mike helium three on the moon, the moon base. All right. A couple of things number one quickly. Yes, you're correct. Russian with manned spacecraft have never gone by beyond low-earth orbit. They sent around fourteenth robes, tomorrow's and all of them failed. They sent several successful probes to Venus and to the moon. They actually did land a lunar Rover called Luna hot. But but that that's what they've done now. May of course, they've had many successful flights to lower orbit certainly have done that. But. Okay. The big question. Do we need to go to the moon before we go to Mars? No the and for quite a while. I've argued that we should make Mars our goal because Mars is where the scientists Mars is where the challenges and Marsh where the future is. Now. The Trump administration has nevertheless decided on making the moon. The proximate goal. Nasa is frankly, not willing to embrace the challenge of humans to Mars parts of NASA are willing to embrace the challenge of a return to the moon. However, in fact, the dominant faction and NASA right now, isn't even willing to do that. And they're pushing for a lunar orbiting space station, which they say is a necessary step on the way to the moon, which is frankly ridiculous. And I was at a conference in Orlando. A couple of months ago where NASA official actually got up and said why we building the station. We're not ready to land on the moon. We don't know how to land on. I think what are you talking about? We landed on the moon fifty years ago. And so NASA has got a kid. It's it it. It's confidence back and perhaps in that sense returning to the moon. If they actually did it might be useful step in terms of returning NASA to a can-do agency instead of a can't do agency. But this lunar orbiting station is a disaster. If you want to know what it is it significance is imagine. I offered you the following deal. I wanna rent you an office in Saskatoon, Canada, the rents a hundred thousand dollars a month. It's a thirty year lease there's no exit clause. You have to pay to build the building you have to spend one month per year for the rest of your life, incest catoon, and if you want to fly anywhere from where you live you must travel through Saskatoon from now on okay? Is this a deal that you would like I you be insane to accept such a deal? That's the deal that Nastas currently offering America by building a lunar orbiting space station, which is in a weird orbit, by the way. It's in a two week orbit around the moon. And it means that only once every two weeks you could travel to it only once every two weeks you could travel from it to the moon or from the moon to it. So if you're actually on the surface of the moon, and you wanna come home the bus only comes by once every two weeks, which actually imposes risk on the lunar base. It's it's not something you want it all so this is a a really bad idea. And you know, it's one of these things worth NASA insists they must go to the moon before we go to Mars, then my answer to them as well. I don't agree with that. But if you must go to the moon before you go to Mars, then get on with it. Let's go to I come up with something else. You have to do before you go. Yeah. That's right. That's right. Let's go to first time caller. Let's go to John in Chesapeake Virginia. John. Welcome. John. Okay. We don't have John. So let's go to international. Let's go to Joe in British Columbia. You're up next on coast. Oh, hi, Jimmy. How you doing? I'm doing good. Joe? Okay. How is it must've helping? I'm due to. Thank you. I have one question for MRs up in alive. Some scientists believe that days a poisonous gas. I'm the atmosphere of Mars bitches and on gas. Is it to is the stock market is it? Both people the atmosphere is not breathe the ball because it's mostly carbon dioxide carbon dioxide is not poisonous. We have it here on earth. Of course. It's it's food for plants. But it's not what we breathe we. But it it's not poisonous like poison gas or cyanide or something. It's, but you do need to have a space suit on Mars where you have an oxygen supply or a habitat on Mars, which has got an oxygen containing atmosphere in it. How much oxygen is in the atmosphere on the surface of Mars meat free oxygen very little like tenths of a percent. A tenth of a percent. So we you take your it's insignificant. Right. But you know, there was no free oxygen on earth to speak of until they were plants here. Right, right. Free oxygen is an artifact of plants because oxygen very reactive. It doesn't want to stay free at wants to bind to to other things like metals carbon other stuff. And so it's plants that have to keep as it were unpacking it and putting it into the atmosphere with our space telescopes. If we ever spine a spectrum of. Yeah. Atmosphere of a planet orbiting another star. And we see it has free oxygen. That will tell us this life there. Let's go to wildcard Dave out in New Jersey. Dave, welcome. You're up next. Hey, jamie. It's really not Dave from New Jersey. It's not who is it. It's I'm a Martian, Jimmy. Okay. Dave. Three seven nine is my name. Okay. Fair enough day fair enough. Now, we have been to Mars. I've been there regularly. And I it was McDonald's hair. And actually McDonald's was Brownsville really on Mars. No, not really, okay. I was gonna say what's the cost of a Big Mac on Mars versus here. That's my question. What do you have for Robert Zuber tonight? Oh, well, I'm sure we went to live by. They had the space by the how they get the space buggy servicing mood. The oh, you're talking was. The it was it like a very lightweight. Hot. Rod. It was it was a two person Bucky, and it was built so light that you you could pick it up, and and and carry it around even on earth. I mean, it was like the weight of a bicycle. And what about Dave? Thank you for the phone call, by the way, that's a great question. And this is the other Robert I've been very confused. Why don't we send something like that to Mars? I mean, the Mars Rover right now that is, you know, slow it's tiny. It's small. Why don't we build a hot ride like the lunar Rover? And let's let's cover some ground. Well, the thing is this the lunar Rover could be fast because it had you mean drivers in it. The the Rover curiosity Rover that we have on Mars is actually the size of Volkswagen it, it's it's it's bigger and much heavier than the lunar Rover was, but it's an automated Rover, and you know, there's a time lag and radio signals from earth to Mars now the curiosity Rover does have some smarts. If it will avoid walking right into Iraq or something. But the, but nevertheless, it has to be told what to do. And then it travels a hundred yards and then it stops and waits for the next command. Let's I've got a couple of personal questions. I'm gonna get those out of the way after this next phone call. Let's go to Charlie in Bristol, Tennessee, Charlie you're up next. Hey, guys, fascinating show has anyone ever considered? Maybe they've done this sending maybe anaerobic bacteria on love of probes or maybe even cockroaches copra two-three indestructible. Still need oxygen though. Right. I would think Robert is what about doing the opposite sending life to Mars like bacteria or or bugs? Well, of course in the long run. We're innocent people and people will bring bacteria wisdom NASA right now has a program in which they try to make sure that nothing. No bacteria get to Mars because they're afraid that if bacteria get to Mars, we won't know, if we find bacteria on Mars, weather, we brought them or whether they were already there. Now. In fact, let me tell you if there's native life on Mars, they'll also be fossils of that life on Mars. That's right. It was there in the past. And so this is really a false fear. And there's a lot of people nasty going around right now saying we should never send people to Mars because I think you're sending people you Wilson bacteria. And then they say, we'll never know if there's life on Mars, we go. To Mars with people. We find life on Mars. If it's native will also find fossils and other biomarkers, and will know that it was there before we got there. It's the same way, you know, that the French actually exist that they didn't all just show up when you did. Because you go to France, you see that there's buildings that were built before you were there. Okay. And you know, I it it's that's just how it is. And and this idea that we won't know if we brought it because the fossils could have been created along with the planet. That's like people that don't believe in evolution and say, God created the fossils when he created the planet. And so there really weren't dinosaurs. It's just you know, God playing tricks on us or something is too ridiculous idea. But way, let me jump in before we run out of time. Speaking of fossils, there was an image. That surfaced about three years ago that for the life of me, I couldn't figure out and it looked like and there was two in the picture of floating spoon. And that there's no other way to describe it. It was a spoon that was floating with a shadow and NASA said that that was just natural wind formations over millions and millions of years. Well, as far as I know I've never seen a floating spoon here on earth. But anyway, did you see that image? What do you think that is could that have been something leftover? I I'm actually not familiar with that image. But once again, I think images so that type there's any number of of of of things photographs of rock, you know, in in in Santa Fe where I live for a little while there's a Iraq. It looks like a camel, and it wasn't a sculpture. It's just purely natural. But it sure looks like a camel we have Castlerock. Here in Colorado, the John F Kennedy mountain the these things are not proof. But believe me, we send people to Mars or we're gonna go fossil hunting, and we will probably find fossils. And once again, if there's native life on Mars, there's fossils of it. Because if it's native it was there in the past, and it will have left remains when how open are you to when I look at some of the curiosity images, the three sixty and I look around at the surface of Mars, it just looks like a debris field to me. It doesn't look natural most of it looks natural. But there are things there that just seem a little out of place. How open are when you look at those photographs. Do you just dismiss everything is just natural? Just rocks. Just old. That's that's all it is. Or is there a possibility that there is something there? There are certain. I mean. There's debris on Mars Mars gets hit by meteors, and we've actually found some on the surface of Mars, and you know, there's been sludge on the surface of Mars this and all sorts of geological activities on the surface of Mars, but to make like debris of artifacts. No. I I don't see that. I do. It's really weird..