President Trump, Ellen, North Korea discussed on Woman's Hour
And that is our Ellen in the book as well. You know, she does have incredible composure. The opening scene of the book, which is phenomenal. She's just on her way back. She's flies back and air falls through from North Korea. It's not gone very well. She's covered in mud. She has to get to what is the State of the Union address, but it's not. So she's going to be in full show, TV cameras there. She's covered in mud. Let me just repeat that. Takes her heels off. Well, I'm struck by is that in a dialog of hers where she says right, I've just got to hold it together. And it just made me think of you Hillary in situations where you have had president Trump looming over you. You've had people chanting lock her up. How do you keep your composure? What do you tell yourself to make sure that you hold it down in that situation? Well, Anita that's absolutely right. I mean, you have to keep focused on what your purpose, your mission is and not let all of the noise from the outside, knock you off your center and make you unsure. I was telling Louise the other day, I was thinking about when I was Secretary of State and I'd be flying around. I went to a 112 countries in four years and it was constant travel and you know, lots of times you would get off the plane at the crack of dawn you'd get back on at midnight you'd get off the next day at the crack of dawn and I was landing in a European country that shall remain nameless and I went to this meeting and I'm on the plane. I'd been on the plane for literally like four days stopping and going. So I pulled my hair back. I thought it looked fine. You know, I got a little height on it and pulled it back. I go to the meeting and get ushered into the room and the prime minister is sitting on the other side of the table, and he's staring at me. Not saying anything, and I'm wondering, what is going on? And finally, I said, prime ministers are something you want to raise before we start the formal meeting. And he goes, well, I was told if your hair is pulled back, you're in a bad mood. I said, no prime minister. It's a bad hair day. That's a difference. But it's that kind of constant incoming information and distractions that you have to keep empowering through. And see that you go that the man don't. Yes. And it's made me think about the characters in this and the amount of fun you must have had, writing the characters, and the British prime minister..