It. Would this be the end of Emerson Fittipaldi's racing career? No, not by a long shot. Though he went home to Brazil to help run the family citrus farms and auto accessory business, Emerson could never quit racing. In 1984, a 38 years old, he joined cart. It's a racing organization. We should definitely talk about it in a future episode because Indy car and cart split. They were competing promotions basically. It's a racing series very similar to indie. Yes, yes. And they drove indie style cars, basically. He spent his first season getting used to the cars, and then eventually joined Patrick racing as an injury replacement. He spent 5 years with the team and won 6 races and had solid finishes in the overall standings. By 1989 though, Emma had officially gotten used to IndyCar racing. He managed 5 wins, one of them at the Indy 500, and placed on the top 5 of every race he completed, and became the 1989 cart champion. In 1990, he was picked up by Roger Penske for his racing team, a team he continued to thrive on. MO maintained his reputation as a top driver for cart and won at least one race with Penske for 6 straight years. Pretty good. Despite his dominance in the sport, the name Emerson Fittipaldi is best known for a single controversy in the cart world. In 1993, Emerson won his second Indianapolis 500 out from under the nose of F one world champ, Nigel Mansell. As most of our listeners probably know, it's tradition for the winner of the Indy 500 to drink a bottle of milk in victory lane. But owned several orange groves in Brazil, and so he chose to drink, orange juice. Honestly, probably better. Better for hydrating more vitamin C it is crazy. Like you just did this insane race, taking an incredible amount of physical energy. Yeah. And then you have to go drink a big thing of milk. It's gross. And if you don't drink the milk, you don't get the trophy. That's the last obstacle. Yeah, they call it the final lap. Emerson was only the second driver to not drink milk at Indianapolis since the tradition was founded in 1936, and as you might expect, the fans were pissed. Oh my God, get over it. Even though MO chased his orange juice with milk, oh God. What? No. The fans are so outraged that he forfeited $5000 from his winner's purse and had to publicly apologize the American dairy association. God. This world, man. That's so weird. But the milk snub would not be forgotten. God. Emma was booed a week later in Milwaukee. Well, of course. That's true. I have no idea. Go back to Mexico. You can bake it up by chugging all these cheese curds. Cheese curds and eat this beer. Milwaukee was the center of the American dairy industry and hometown of our very own Joe Weber. And actually the woman who wrote this script, Christina. Joe, you made it into the pod, made it into the cast. Nice. Me and Emerson Fittipaldi side by side. Joe or James, can I get a Joe voice real quick? I'm from Milwaukee. Were you like cheese curds? Anyway, many fans held it against Emerson for years. Has had to publicly apologize and explain himself many, many more times, including when he returned to Indianapolis to drive for Chevrolet in the 2008 Indy 500, despite it being 15 years after the incident, he was still booed and heckled by the fans during the parade laps. They're just having fun at this point. Yeah, yeah, that's a good bit at this point. Anderson stayed in cart until 1996 when a broken neck at the Michigan International Speedway forced him to retire, Michigan, tough track. He finished his career with 22 cart wins, but couldn't stay away from the track for long. In 2003, he returned as a team owner for the Fittipaldi dingman racing team. Do you think digman was like, I want my name first. Dingman Fittipaldi. For the quality digman, just sounds better. Yeah, I agree, I guess. Try as he might, though, Emerson really couldn't stay away from the driver's seat. Just two years later, in 2005, Emerson made a surprise return to competitive racing in the Grand Prix masters event held in Kai lami in South Africa and finished second behind fellow F one driver Nigel Mansell. Then three years later in 2008, he and Wilson junior entered the Brazilian GT3 championship, driving a Porsche 9 9 7 GT3 for The WB motor sports team. It had an animaniacs livery on it. No, that's not real. That'd be sick, though. He also raced these semi trucks. What did he? Yeah. That's cool. Since then, Emerson became chairman of motor sport dot com in 2011. And in 2003, he started writing a monthly blog on McLaren's website. He also loves to throw his opinion into the mix and has recently gone on the record of his approval of F one's new sprint qualifying races. Probably one of the only people to do that. I kid, I kid. But this isn't an episode just about Emerson Fittipaldi. It's about his family's legacy. And with 7 kids, let's just say there's a lot of family to cover. Beginning with Emerson's brother, a man we've already lightly talked about, mister Wilson, Fittipaldi, junior. Wilson, Fittipaldi junior was born on Christmas in 1943, which means he might be a werewolf. It also born on Christmas. You might be a werewolf. According to what logic, well, lord. You know, lore. Ancient lore. It also makes him Emerson's big brother. Wilson junior was often referred to as Wilson Ho. Which means little Wilson. And we came a motor sport enthusiast as a child alongside his brother. Now we've already told you a little bit about Wilson, how he flipped the boat in his teens, built a successful series of cards with emmo and how he even ended up with his own, albeit unremarkable, F one team, but there's more to Wilson than his relationship with Emerson. Kind of, they're both werewolves. He chugs pineapple juice. Remember when Emerson struck out on his own and flew to Europe in 1969, only to win the F three championship that same year? Well, it was his big brother that set the example. 1966, Wilson flew to Europe to race for formula three. Unfortunately, it went a little differently for him. Due to conflicts with the team he drove for in Brazil, his opportunity to race fell through, so he flew home. Wilson didn't return to England until 1970 following his little brother's success in F two. That year he entered the British formula three with Jim Russell driving school driving a lotus 59 and got two a bark championship round at Silverstone..