Western Europe, The Netherlands, U.S. discussed on Airplane Geeks Podcast


Can buy the parts from us if you want. And assemble your own. But yeah, we've got 7500 of them, half of them are in the U.S., the other half are various international places, mostly big concentration in Western Europe, let's say. It's very popular in the UK and the Netherlands. Well, when you started this, did you have grand visions of creating this large functionality or quitting your job and earning your living from this or is it kind of like a hobbyist kind of a thing that got out of control? It was really kind of the letter. It was a hobbyist thing that got out of control. I mean, it started doing this. After work, I'd be working on the computer and my wife would say, what are you doing? You're working on that website again, you know, yeah, yeah, it's pretty neat. It was a hobby for many years. Up until recently, I had an IT job that I worked for WeWork, and that's a whole different other story. If you ever follow the financial markets, but anyhow, that sort of did what it did a couple of years back. And then I saw I started doing this full time. We've grown the network. It's really, it's really made first and foremost for hobbyists and people who are interested in what's going on out there. And sort of the commercial aspect. I mean, yes, it does create data that we can sell and use that to pay the bills. I mean, we have two data centers and all sorts of equipment that we need to maintain and things like that. So there is a need for funding to keep that going, but really the primary purpose is to really serve the hobbyist that says, what's out there, what's fine? You can flip it on and see interesting things like the zephyr drone that's flying in southern Arizona where that was a solar powered drone that can fly around the clock, basically it flew for days and days on end. You see all sorts of interesting stuff, the Google loon balloons, and now that that project's been canceled, the other balloons that are doing whatever they're doing on it, they've got some defense contractor or something, but that, and then people like to watch military activity to obviously if the military is going in and doing something on a mission. They're not going to have transponder on because they don't want the enemy to know what they're doing. But there are a lot of public missions that are broadcast and they do leave their transponder on. You can kind of see movements and things that are going on. And whatnot. So that's another popular aspect of it too. But there's all sorts of uses for this data. Whether you're we worked with a lot of NGOs and places like that, looking at whether it be ivory smuggling or drug smuggling or moving questionable things around. Is that what a C four ADS dot org is all about? Yes, yes, that's correct. We have a partnership with them where we share the data and they help us expand the network into some of the less covered corners of the globe. We can track a lot of interesting things going on that it may help to shed light on. When I was playing over the weekend with, I don't know, some apps somewhere. And I saw somebody come up on maybe it was Twitter or something that said, hey, you know, I've been tracking this predator over the Ukraine just doing holding patterns and I went, how in the world did you figure that out? Well, while we were sitting here, I opened your app on my laptop and it's pretty clear. There's not a whole lot of traffic around the Ukraine and southwest Russia and it's pretty easy. But I would have thought just to your point earlier that in a predator, they wouldn't have had the damn thing on unless they wanted somebody to know they were there. I'm pretty sure it's the latter. I think most of this most of the time when they leave this stuff on, it's because they want to send a message. If you have a stealth aircraft, you're not going to broadcast your location, but I think they want to make it clear that they're there and they're watching. That's my theory. I'm pretty sure they didn't forget to turn it off. Although, through some contractors, we have heard that the air force was quite surprised about how much social media there is around, hey, look at where this plan is going, look at where that plane's glowing and I mean, we're actually talking about doing some things with helping them increase their op sec to remember to turn that transponder off when you want it off. Well, a privacy is an issue that's been brought up by some. I think we know that in maybe another services, the aircraft of corporations or wealthy individuals is not included in the publicly available data that that service provides, maybe one of the big examples that we've seen lately, of course, is the tracking of Elon Musk's plane and how I guess Jack Sweeney is the guy that is doing that. Elon doesn't like the fact that his travels are available to anybody that follows the Elon jet Twitter account..

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