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Selena, Celine Dion, Montreal discussed on Front Burner

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She was pretty ubiquitous. I lived in Montreal at the time. And so you are particularly exposed And I'd always had a kind of instinctive rejection of for music and so I wanted to to explain why I had that reaction and to try and understand what her fans were appreciating about her and the book looks at Kerr in many ways to figure that out but also looks at how taste works in general to figure that out and that all made sense up until about three or four years ago ago when the idea that celine dion was ever something that people were ashamed to like more that there she was ever a divisive figure gear suddenly became rendered absurd in and this grand cultural consensus arose. That she is the best. And everybody's always thought so. And who who would it'd be so crazy as to have any problem with Cillian deal in many ways in many ways my book now feels like it's terms have been inverted and a future future civilizations will look at it and go what was this man doctoring about but you weren't alone You weren't alone in two thousand seven in sort of feeling like Selena. Sort of like the over the top schmaltzy artists. That was that was kind of the consensus of the time it was get. It was conventional wisdom and particularly you know if you look at the way that she was often represented in the press and in the media the kind of snooty reaction to her was was pretty typical and in the book. I have pages and pages of examples of just terrible insults that people all directed at her for decades and yet that's all turned around for for a variety of reasons. Partly I think for things that have happened happened in the culture and also things that I have happened with her now even then you saw the Renaissance Aline de Oncoming and here. We are thirteen years later. Is it playing the way that you fight body would. It's different than I thought I imagined you know. There's a cycle that culture goes through where usually after the twenty years after the time that something was been famous and usually big and famous and divisive the edges. All soften you know and we look back and we see somebody more as a representative of that time period and memories of what the culture was like at that time. And you know if you think about ninety late nineties ninety s culture the differences between Celine Dion Smash Mouth. Don't feel like they're that important. They kind of sound similar now in a way that would have been impossible. Multo Imagine Ben but I think there's more than that I think that because of the way that she's seized on this kind of new phase for life you know partly beginning through those Las Vegas residencies which was kind of a whole new model of how to sort of manager mid-career and then the biggest transformation took place three years ago when her long long time husband and manager. Andrew Lill died And you know this was her like quarter-century older husband who started managing her when she was a teenager with children of his own Was Sheepish to admit he you've been seeing someone twenty six years younger. The couple would marry in Nineteen ninety-four Montreal's knuckle down basilica a lavish ceremony with a star-studded guest list and so her whole career had been under the ages of his aesthetics and his decisions and as much as you know. She's made very clear. How broken up? She is and heartbroken over his death at the same time. She's clearly seized the opportunity to be in command of her own pather career and year-by-year more and more we've been seeing her sort of performing coming her enjoyment of this stage of her life in this kind of real kind of middle aged liberation in a lot of ways and people are responding to that. I want to talk a little bit about that because I think the way that we think about How Rene Chronic crafted? Her career is to be this capital desert of diva an I and now she seems to be having a lot of fun with that. Yeah I think that you know. Lin- came from a very old fashioned Quebecois showbiz culture the the way that people often refer to the divisions that there was kind of a division between the Sean to kind of tradition in Quebec. which is the more sort of serious-minded singer-songwriter are often very politicized nationalist cadet culture and then on the other side a kind of longer-standing older kind of variety show tradition? You know that people like the undo frame would represent which was much more of a sort of deavere kind of champagne and Tuxedos and gowns kind of world and and when it represented that end of it and so that's sort of what he brought selene into big outfits and big hair shiny lights and and that's what when translated over into a more worldwide and especially sort of English language debut. She ended up being very tied to kind of Hollywood or Broadway. kind of sense of what a diva is like and fitting into that kind of more old fashioned world really you know she collaborated with streisand as somebody like a couple of generations younger than streisand. In a way that nobody else in the nineties would have done atn very few..

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