Great Salt Lake, Terry Tempest Williams, Writer discussed on Becoming Wise
Becoming wise is supported by the fetzer institute. I've had hundreds of big conversations and my conversation partners, share wisdom. I carry with me wherever I go, Terry tempest Williams. It's a beloved naturalist raised Mormon in Utah. She calls herself a citizen writer rooted in the American west. I love the connections. She draws in the natural world, but also the human world between fierce love and hard work. This is becoming wise. I'm krista. Tippett. You have been part of. What I would say has been a growing. Movements awareness about the natural world image, even speak dinner, I think from from childhood, I just wonder if you think about if you'd reflect on how that whole sphere of waking up to the natural world and our place in it, which has many dimensions, what that experience is teaching us, that might be useful in this political moment, this cultural moment. You know, I think about. Great Salt Lake growing up, as child, you know, you went to at once Iranian, you screened in Iran out and you drove home pickled you know hits have scratches on their legs. And you know, it was a horrible experience today in fifty years in my lifetime crates out like is being celebrated and every year in may. We have a great Salt Lake bird festival. You know, that would have been unthinkable, then, you know, and the connective that's being made of the birds in great Salt Lake. You know, are coming down from the Arctic or going down to Mexico even into the Gulf of Mexico, so that when we see tragedy like the oil spill in the Gulf, you know, that, that doesn't just affect people who live in Louisiana, or Alabama action. But yeah, those are, you know, I heard one of my nieces say, you know, those are pelicans to. So there's that connectedness that is local that, that extends beyond our home. Ground. I think there's something that we are losing that. I, I really grieve and I worry about. And that's where I think it does come back to education. You know, I think we're losing an ecological literacy, biological literacy that we no longer know the names of things, you know, great blue Heron, long billed curlew, cinnamon teal blue wing till green wing teal, if we don't know who we live among then when they vanish, there's no one to mourn that loss. I think it's very important that, that we establish a phonology so that we know that when the coyotes are howling, you know with their young in August. It's also when the young medal larks are hatching, you know, the interconnectivity again, we go back to the same thing of how the it all comes down to relationships to place to pay attention to stain to listening to learning. Of a heightened curiosity with other, and we can go the route of love of other or we can go the route of fear. And I think too often, we go the route of fear, and we shut down because if we open to love, then we're going to get hurt and we're going to get angry. That's a really important point to make that love is not something squishy in romantic its fierce. It is absolutely fierce. But the other side of love is that empathy and. You know, I always wondered why when someone died in my father's neighborhood in his community. He always went the next day to their house. He didn't call. He just showed up. I thought what an amazing thing because I think, often when you hear someone's died or we want to give them privacy, or we don't want to bother them impose. And it was only last night. I heard him say, you know, yes, today's the anniversary of my wife's passing but tomorrow is the hard day because when I woke up I was alone and there was no in there. You know that's love. And the other side of that love and loss, is the empathy rooted in action. What my father is there on that next day to with his friends, you know, that's what I'm talking about. And so I think it's about making commitments to do the real work, the hard work because ultimately, that's where I have found the. Most joy. Terry tempest Williams, newest book is the hour of land a personal topography of America's national parks. Becoming wise is produced by Marie samba Lilley, Percy, and Chris eagle at on being studios, which is located on Dakota land. And our theme music is provided and composed by Zoe Keating. This podcast is produced on studios in Minneapolis. Ms so.