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One Ninety six with Echo Charles and me Jouko willink good evening echo good evening in November MacArthur ordered a drive all the way up to the Yellow River which divides north th- Korean China you made the infamous promise that is victorious troops would be home for Christmas all the dailies were we're happy to hear this news at this point I was still at Quantico and it looked as though the war would end before my classmates and I deployed then on November twenty six the Chinese launched an immense surprise attack routing all UN forces from coast to coast and trapping the US marines at the Chosin Reservoir outnumbering them by upwards of four to one the action that followed became known as has the frozen chosin the Marines held their positions with very little support totally cut off from the unprotected supply lines at macarthur stretched thin behind them they fought in near Arctic conditions their canned rations froze their limbs froze men froze to death the enemy used artillery to soften the marine positions and then come at them with human wave attacks. The strategy was to charge the Americans and usually at night when they were without air support in some instances frozen enemy dead were stacked in front of marine fighting positions Titians and used as sandbags needless to say any marine who survived chosen became legend it borders on absurd to think that I a twenty three year old lieutenant with a degree from Yale would soon be giving orders to men and who had fought their way out of that cold hell one such man I would go onto command was gunther dose a German immigrant grint who is one of just sixteen men in a rifle company of two hundred plus to walk out of chosen for his actions including faking his own death as Chinese soldiers disarmed him in probed the wound in his head dose was awarded the Silver Star and Purple Heart as summarized in the following excerpt from silver from his silver star Citation Private First Class dose held his fire to prevent premature disclosure closer of of his position while the intense small arms grenade automatic weapons and machine gun barrage continued the fire continued with deadly accuracy killing several and dispersing the others with his weapon inoperative as the FO persisted in the onslaught Private First Class Dose furled hand-grenades to account for two more hostile soldiers as the bullets from an automatic weapons sprayed is position wounding him and killing a marine rifleman nearby by fighting unconsciousness as the enemy moved closer he feigned death as they felt the bullet hole in the top of his helmet examined I and his blood stained face and hands and removed his weapon and cartridge belt after seven agonizing hours during which remain perfectly still bill while the enemy still believing him to be dead occupied his foxhole he surveyed the situation and make contact with an adjacent marine unit after friendly counterattack doc finally forced them to withdraw after training each marine is assigned assigned MOS or military occupational specialty the Mos for Infantry Officer is oh three. Oh One after chosen Rosen we at the Marine Corps basic school took to calling it. Oh three Oh shit by year's end nineteen fifty the situation in Korea was so grim that Truman was seriously considering moving all US forces from peninsula my New Year's nineteen fifty one the second second wave of to the Chinese offensive pushed the UN coalition south of the thirty eighth parallel forcing them to surrender soul for the second time the First Special Marine Corps basic class graduated around the time the division broke out chosen is one of the cores finest hours but for us it was a stark reminder that the war was just getting started. We had to fill out requests for next duty assignments. Most of US would be given orders to Korea but most made their first choice something other than infantry only only five lieutenants in my training company requested to lead a rifle platoon and I was one of them only five lieutenants in my training company request to believe a rifle platoon and I was one of them think about that for a minute we're talking about a company of officers in the United States Marine Corps and that right there was an excerpt from a manuscript of a book which is called uh-huh make peace or die a life of service leadership and nightmares. The book is written by Charles Tells you daily and it is a distinct honor to actually be sitting here. You're with Mr Daily today to discuss his book is incredible life and the amazing lessons he has from it all Mr daily welcome to the show. Thank you for coming on. Thank you wear your own record and you you. How long have you been working on this book for in my heart a long time yeah all right we're going to record actually be sure why other than I thought that now old and I wanted to leave something behind for my family my son's rage sixty sixty seven to twenty four and an idea of what life was like and and truthfully set that down and we can we are usually toilet paper where they want to make a commercial venture shirow it I I felt that would have been trading on the body doesn't behind well? The the truth certainly comes out alpinist book. It's it's super frank and straightforward been it's. It's a great read and I appreciate your son. Charlie send ended it to me and and Lincoln all this up. It's it's good and it's it lays out your life and I'd like to go back to the book right now and go to the beginning. The beginning of the book and the beginning of your story is starts off like this mind is not your typical Irish immigrant story for one thing. My Dad had use of a private airplane when I was growing up a bulky Ford Tri Motor with Silver Skin A. and loud engines that scared the hell out of me. The plane and a private railcar were perks of my father's work as a top. US Executive for Shell Oil our family came to America on a boat but it was an ocean liner and we traveled first-class definitely not your typical immigrant story. No I've screwed it up later on not the sort of person could be flunk out of the very interesting story on your on your heritage and going back to the book again. It says an eighteen ninety two my father was was born in Ningpo China. The son of Dr Charles Cather AP- daily said that right in close close enough football as close as I could do it grew set up a clinic in Ningpo several year following several voyages to China China as a ship's doctor. It seems he found the human human suffering in that ancient kingdom too hard to ignore and so we stayed in married an Irish nurse with similar ideals perhaps my grandfather's there's response to this cry for help. Explain something about my own life my tendency to spring into action when someone is suffering a wrong even on the other side of the world even if it's not my fight this habit of leaping into action when the bugle blows has been a mixed blessing for me as it well may have been for him and there was all kinds of turmoil going on in China at the time and so they actually sent sent your father back to be educated at the turn bridge school and then he went on to Cambridge where he graduated in nineteen fourteen in anyone that knows anything about history knows that that's not a good year to be graduating from college in Britain large number of them an an age seventeen or thereabouts went off to war and the that time little knowledge of war there's a wonderful book Falker dire of fox hunting man followed by an infantry officer and he a gentleman and he went to war with groom for his horse and horse and before they met machine yes that's we've we've covered multiple books first pertinent person accounts on on this podcast talking about the absolute horror of World War One and and the horror of the machine gun versus versus the tactics that they had at the time the end. It's actually unbelievable when you read the stories about World War One. It's unbelievable that it happened unbelievable that it happened for a week nevermind a month nevermind years where you'd say okay. Hey you're battalion just went over the over the top no one came back and in fifteen minutes. Our battalion is going to go and fifteen minutes after that another battalion. It's going to go. It's it's crazy to think about that kind of human sacrifice and and that the genius who did weren't the one who went over the top and walked and walked ahead fell or talk on a barbed wire and they had no concept except the the little bit of experience in the Boer War souvenir hunts and no concert they're doing to a generation aw on both sides of the going back to the book I keep a photo of my father taking during the first World War in it my dad stands in his officer uniform with binoculars and a walking stick beside him. My mother's nineteen year old brother Charlie a lieutenant leans on his rifle and a confident alfred impose half smiling behind pipe there flanked by a few others one is wearing a German army helmet with spike on top a war trophy. What war does to men can be detected in the difference between their expressions? My Dad has the proverbial thousand yard stare the corners of his is around his spectacles and his brows show resignation in an exhausted readiness. The men under his command have a similar look Charlie on on the other hand has the fresh phrase of a replacement a gentleman for whom war is still a great adventure Charlie's only been on the Front for less than a week he would be blown to pieces shortly after this photo was taken my dad handed this photo down to me and scribbled the names of the men under Irit with Kia or wi beside each name marking them all killed or wounded. I thought of cropping cropping photo to make it a family shot and I'm glad I didn't those other guys had already been cropped out shortly after after my own war I asked Dad when the bad memories fade it will take a long time. He said but finally they will fade. They don't know they were going to get to your war in a Bit Your Dad's wore staying with the book data gone to the Front in the fourth battalion of the Royal Royal Dublin Fusiliers having applied for a commission on the day. The war broke out he was named captain falling a perfunctory officers training course wallace sons went to war. My grandfather managed to hospitals in Ireland that handle the overflow of wounded in nineteen seventeen. He was awarded an order of the British empire for this work by Uncle Lieutenant Arthur Charles de Burgh daily another Charlie was killed in action on the night the September nineteen sixteen after having seen action and survived in the Psalm. He was nineteen years old in his last letter home he wrote. We attacked GIN cheat. She attacked Kimchi tomorrow. In case of accidents I played the game two days ago and will please God tomorrow was that mean played the game two days ago that means already probably seen some combat probably went out at least on a patrol or attack general attack highly unlikely to come back but the night patrol our regular and anyway some want to probe the enemy line. I'll the probe the enemy line cutting away through barbed-wire waiting That's a tough weight problem yeah. That's it's a patrol later on in my life. the trolls are different enough without people waiting with certain knowledge that you're coming and so you start messing around with the barbed wire they know exactly where you there are a whole lot of ammunition but it doesn't take much answering machine teen out some probes so then when it didn't come back the the genus trenches on it now I can't grasp but our mentality went and how pompous generals were. I'm not far generals the next morning he is said to have led his men over the top and was hit in the ear with the British rapple he took covering a shout shell crater to process the wound and regain his composure.."