Karen, Terry, Taryn Winter Brill discussed on Biz Talk Radio Programming
Everybody and welcome to bestseller TV. I'm Taryn Winter Brill. We're here with Gary McGrath. He is the author of a CEO's journey. The seven steps of intentional leadership making good bosses into great leaders. It's great to have you with us. Thank you, Terry. Good to be here. I should say, Dr Gary, Dr Gary, I go by that because I got my doctor later in life. And when I finished my engineering degree in college, I said, I'm never going back to school was kind of burned out. And but I found out later on that I'm actually a lifelong learner. So I loved to go back to school. Got my master's Got my doctor fifties. Yeah, that's incredible. It's never never too late. A lot of number too late. This is your second book. It is great, great. And the first one was on leadership as well. The first was on sales leadership was kind of a how to book with this one is more all encompassing the leadership specifically. Yeah. Okay. Well, the title is the CEOs journey is this Your journey. Um, partly, yes, I think that every book has a part of the author in it, No matter what it is, Um, And this particular journey is because most CEOs are challenged in the work that they do every day and leading an organization. And the biggest thing I think, is there all alone there by themselves, so it's really hard for them to find people to confide in and work with, and we all I need somebody to talk to. This book is about CEO that really struggles and in that journey and hires a coach to help them and it's something that is becoming a lot more popular now. But it's been around a long time. Right? And I just think CEOs and executives should always consider and can understand how to heads are always better than one. We say that And then we don't live it right? Because we should say the book is sort of laid out in this scenario between Karen and Paul Mariners coach Karen's the coach somebody that Paul had worked for in the past. It's really interesting because its position where he's struggling with everything With his job with his family with his kids. He's struggling with everything and doesn't know where to turn and went back into his history. And Karen was somebody who had worked with in the past and somebody trusted. And called her up and said help? Yeah s O s. But that said you bring up a good point. How do you go about finding a coach? I mean, he'd worked with Karen in the past. But what if you've never worked with someone in the past, you trust where you began? There are coaches everywhere in our days, but typically, I think that if you just ask around and ask other CEOs who you're working with Um, those kinds of personal referrals are probably the best way to find a good coach right before we get into the seven steps. Tell us a little bit more about your background. Your professional background got an ROTC scholarship at the river's Connecticut got an engineering degree in mechanical and metallurgical engineering. And went right into the army. And, uh, when I was 25 years old, I had the first opportunity actually command a unit of 120 soldiers. Wow. So with three older brothers that were in the military All enlisted and I was the first that went into the military as an officer. They made it very clear to me. Listen to your non commissioned officers, So I kept my mouth shut, and I listened to these very experienced sergeants. And had a pretty successful career. But I learned in that experience that the culture of the army wasn't the right fit for me. My whole family was navy, My dad. My four brothers, my son. We're all navy. And we have 108 years of military service amongst us. And so that's where I began my journey and then went to manufacturing with my engineering degree and Procter and Gamble. It's got paper was Got a lot of really good management, leadership training. Uh, again. I just wasn't It didn't feel right to me yet. So I started my first business. I work for Stephen Covey for the Cover Leadership Center and Ken Blanchard teaching situation leadership. And my wife told me that I needed to get a real job. So went back into business. And I learned at that point that in order to really do something. The old way of living with diabetes is a pain you've got to remember.