Anorexia, The Netherlands, Rolf discussed on On Being with Krista Tippett

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13. And he had no memory of the accident in which he was disabled and his body remembered it. I mean, he talks about body memory. It's the same thing you say, this imprint that trauma has not just on your mind and the other thing that he's doing recently is actually working with veterans and also working with young women with suffering from anorexia. And understanding also that although that seems to be so much an obsession with the body, they are really in a traumatic relationship with their own bodies. And some of the things he was doing, which he actually did for me I did a class with him, just putting these very comforting weights, you know, on certain muscles, and you so you feel sunk into your body in a way. And I don't know. I just was thinking it has been thinking about this as I've been reading about your research. It sounds very sympathetic and very bright. Yes. These sensory experiences are feeling weights and feeling your substance feeling your substance, which is bigger than just feeling a weight on your muscles. So really feeling feeling your body move and the life inside of yourself. It's critical. And, you know, personally, for example, when people ask me so, what sort of treatment have you explored? I've always treated for every treatment that exports other people. What's the most helpful for me has been rolfing? It's been what? Rolfing, the whole thing is called after either Rolf. It's very deep tissue work where people tear your muscles from your fascia. And with the idea that at a certain moment your body comes to be contracted in a way that you're habitually hold yourself. And so your body sort of takes on a certain posture. And the idea of rolling is the key really open up all these connections and make the body flexible again in a very deep way. I had asked me as a kid. I was a very sickly as a kid. I was part of this group in the Netherlands in the final year of the war in the Netherlands during which I was born about a hundred kid died. From starvation. It was a very sick kid. And I think I carried it to my body for a long time. And racing helped me to overcome that, actually. So I know I've got a body. It became flexible. And multi potential again. And for my patients, I always recommended see somebody who helps them to really feel their body experienced their body open up to their bodies. And I refer people always to cranial cycle work or film in Christ. I think there's a very important component about becoming a healthy person. You know, but they're not that easy to find. They're still kind of around the edges. Filled in cranial circle. Isn't it strange how in western culture in a field like psychotherapy or even I see this a lot in religion? In western culture, we turned these things into these chin up experiences. We separated ourselves. So we divided ourselves I see this yoga is everywhere now, right? And people are discovering all kinds of ways as you say, they're all kinds of other ways to reunite ourselves, but it's true. Western culture is astoundingly disembodied. And a uniquely so. The way I like to say it is that we basically come from a post alcoholic culture. If you feel bad, just take a swig or take a pill, and the notion that you can do things to change the harmony inside of yourself is just not something that we teach in schools and in our culture and our churches and our religious practices. And of course, if you look at religions around the world, they always start with dancing movements.

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