Listen: Patriots, Peyton Manning, Nick Foles discussed on GSMC Sports Podcast
"Game winner Tabasco The helmet cash. Which I mean when you look at off encourage you need to have hall of fame moments mailing the ploughs? 'cause that's in that's where we're discussing death when it matters the most is like we always talk about how important super bowls are important. Rings are in sports and how people are judged by that except for when a guy that you don't really like that much gets one in the now you to try to rationalize like how we got it now he's not like this isn't like these years weren't I I just wasn't like Peyton Manning's last year in Denver where it was like. Clearly he was he was not what he once was and he kind of long for the rival defense. Gary no you'll have to go into hostile environments and play. Well well in these games in order for them to win I mean. I didn't talk about even Dallas Game He wanted he had What was it he he had two touchdown passes in that game? I think over on his two playoff runs in those two years. He threw fifteen touchdowns in twelve twelve. Nine even two interceptions. I mean that's great again. What you ask them quarterback when you get to the playoffs and then they would let him for talk? Talk about the the second playoff run and also you gotta remember that that I find that the Patriots came to this who eighteen now for the perfect season. He ended that people thought they were surefire superbowl champion. That year didn't happen on the next year. They didn't have to go on the road. Three Games Games only one on the road for two of the Games. They beat land twenty four to two in the first round then they went into Green Bay. Meet the fifteen in one packers with Aaron Rodgers probably It means a statistic. I mean record wise. Probably everybody's best team and he was great game twenty one of thirty three three hundred yards three touchdowns one interception outduelled Aaron Rodgers Primary Rogers. Then he goes on the road in San Francisco I mean was he aided by some muffed punt by Kyle Williams uh-huh yes but also in this game. He was just getting beat up. I mean he got sacked. What six times through ball almost sixty times Only at three hundred yards two touchdowns this another over time. She's won multiple games in the playoffs. In overtime. I mean again in game winning pass in this one but it was just north. Kick a field goal to give him the win. I think I'm pretty sure this one was set up by a muffed punt by Williams in overtime so I mean that nothing duty live but you eat so put his team in position to win the game and an OSCE going to the Super Bowl the Patriots again beat them again. Don't have the helmets time. You just have probably one of easy. The top those in the super bowl ever and then probably one of the top throws just in general all time into that. Mario Manningham sideline in the fourth quarter Because that's just like like it's a little bit to the left Goes out of balance is a little bit to the right. Probably gets you there if he gets mad at down or deflected or maybe even pick off and if he does any software dozen he doesn't get there it doesn't get there in time and it's deflected those any harder than he might overthrown so liberty like That ball was literally the only place you could play in that scenario again this fourth quarter super bowl. Oh big moments big time and he delivered say delivered twice and it's just one of those things where it's like once are you. You can call it a fluke make you. We've seen JOE FLACCO GONNA magical run when the Super Bowl we've seen nick foles on a magical run win a super bowl using Trent dilfer want us to always pay manning's lashing she wanted to blow. We've seen subpar quarterbacks when super bowls before look twice and was a blondie people at times like in the now you can't call it a fluke in my opinion and now some people are like. Oh He's just Joe flacco of Joe FLACCO. Did it again or like say Nick. foles comes back and wants to know the Super Bowl. Then he basically manning's career and do both those things I will say one needs the Joe FLACCO. I mean you never know but as as of this moment right now joe flacco is not one super bowl since he won it back in like twenty twelve somewhere around the early twenty tens and the Nicole is just spent this year getting being benched for a rookie and now now now like alive benched where it was like is this is probably going to be slash regarding this is they. They went on payday. Falls big money to be the starter that it didn't work out so and also Nikoloz never started seeing never been A Minnesota solder for prolonged period of time on any team. He's been on. What is the Rams Chiefs Eagles? Jaguars everybody's gone. I visit anywhere. He's on that wasn't the eagles. He hasn't been great and then he's been with the eagles. He's only been great for short periods of time. The he had the one season twenty seven and and two year led the not his fault folded losing the house in the first round on the next year he was kind of injured. And all you end up getting injured trading him play all sixteen games now super bowl year. he he wasn't that great the last three games. This season then was good for the Vikings and patriots game and he was all right in the Falcons game. I mean if Kano Neil catches the ball that that is a gigantic teachable. Disney tried schedule with his hands with his chest. Then look nick foles entirely differently. So I'm saying is it easy for again when you think about the places like basically you have to play good football for like Max four-game so it was like a month a month. You have to play really. Well can mediocre quarterbacks get hot and play well for for for four games. Yes Romeo Court. Don't do that twice. That's my only thing they don't do it twice and and also win super bowl. MVP Who Bush twice. I think he's one of what I believe. Five guys to do the other four. Are Tom Brady Joe Montana Terry. Bradshaw Bart saw. Aw guys that are that are in the hall of fame or in Tom. Brady's case are going to be in the hall of fame and then obviously in kind of stands out in that in that group. But it's like our this is rarefied air to be able to do this and I'm not like a big. I'm not necessarily a big guy. Never thought it was really that good. I'm not really the big giants got budgets. Just that like when when you think the hall of fame is supposed to be signified. The memorable moment memorable players worried like if you take them out of history of the. NFL is something missing and whether people like it or not if you take our meeting in the giant seems out of the history of the NFL Valdan. There is something missing because they were the up until two thousand eighteen. They were the first and only team to beat the Patriots in the Super Super Bowl. An now see the Nick foles. Doing that Kinda hurts that links. The a little bit but again. I guess you'd say he's almost done it twice. He's going to have beaten Brady twice inner superbowl hard to be greedy twice ever in over the course of his career. I mean Payton Manning as you saw struggled with that in the playoffs and alighted twice on the biggest your stage against argue the best. The best quarterback ever the best coach ever The Best Dynasty in history of the sport like. That's it's not. It's not an easy thing to do. And that's something he was able to do so you have to give him some level of credit for that and I think that credit will be him making it into the hall of fame now. This is because we talked about the hall of fame in how I feel about the way the road crosses done do like. That's the weird thing is he like like A. I felt like no doubt Hall of Famer. No that's why. Why he she pie won't get down about naming people like him so he actually might but it's just like the weird scenario where are are like? How long does he does? He have to wait to get in because again his numbers are going to change. Numbers probably only going to drop down. I know he's top. Ten Yard touchdown passes by by by the time he's he's eligible for fame he might be in further down. This guys like Matt Ryan and Matt Stafford and a couple of other guys those to finish out their career. Maybe even like a Philip rivers where he ends up over his career here where he is he out on the way that right now on the list. But he like my Matt Ryan Mess for those kind of couple those air rogers like those kinda order quarterbacks that are past that and nightmare drop his staff down a little bit not to be interesting to see but at the same time. It's hard for me to take a guys won. Two super bowls went to super. MVP's did not put him in the hall of fame and again and memorable moments both of those and in one of those beaten the greatest team arguably ever the deputy the greatest dynasty of the last half century in football maybe in all sports the greatest coach greatest quarterback in all sports in solvable. I mean against I would Where you make a song of argument form as against them now? I need to hear your argument against the for why you're GonNa Liam out. But I'm saying if it were so easy for me okay quarterbacks to do what he has done the more money or quarterbacks would have two super bowls with two superbowl. WBZ In my opinion. You look at Gaza Aaron Rodgers who are great and have only been to one super bowl ever in their entire career. You got paid in how long it took him just to even get to the first one how long it took him to get back to another one drew brees never been to one. Never been to a second one. So yes if it were so easy for people to go and win two super bowls into suitable. MVP's and more great quarterbacks would have that. That's why I was only five. Players is only five core by ever won multiple Super Bowl. MVP's does not that easy and he has one of them. I think just one of those things where it's you Kinda have to give him credit for that but allows retirement may start off a off season with that could feature a lot of quarterback movement whether that's retirements vitamins. Or that's quarterback switching teams with US quarterbacking traded. What have you is? There's a lot. There's a lot of uncertain quarterback situations around the League uh-huh coming up this off season."