UK, Tanya, Europe discussed on Food for Thought
Real truth behind meet on whether it's time for us all to stop eating it. Hello Tanya alone nights to be with you. Know, it's an absolute pleasure to have you on and to discuss such a ever evolving conversation I suppose because. I mean meet his debated heavily at the moment it seems to be in the media all the time. That is good that it's not good and if we're nutritionally looking at it, red meat is such a good source of protein in. So many ever micronutrients isn't it? So what exactly is within it that people are saying causes harm. Okay. So those are some of the great benefits that can be had from easing some mission the died the problem is that we too much in that's having dramatic impacts, not only on our health on knives and the economy. Through ill health, but also on our planet to but I really think before we focus on me we need to just put this into context of food itself because food is a single strong as lever to actually optimize our health and the environmental sustainability on earth. But the food that we are eighteen currently threatening boats over our selves and our planet and the unhealthy diets. Now pose a greater risk to our ill health and jets much greater than on safe sex alcohol drugs and tobacco combined. So it's huge. It's a huge issue we need radical transformation. While I when you put it like that I'm sure that's kind of a shocking stop full missed most of our listeners. Because if we do go back in time that, let's go back in history and millions of years ago when if we all going back to obviously the subject of meat because that's the episode in general but of course, our overall diet humans eight very different to what they know didn't mean even the role of meat then is different to how it is now. Yes I mean we've evolved as omnivores meaning this species of always actually Asian, and both plants an animal origins, and we've got that Dacian, right back to glacial periods. So humans hunted and killed animals for meat, and since that time gave is tremendous advantages because it's nutritionally dense. It's got a lot of new chance in a small CH it. We use less energy media justice than pump fruits, for example. So it's race advantages, but domestication of animals came in on. That was pretty good because even back, you know before the twentieth century, we had great diversity in our diet in many many plants and it's really only in the last twenty five fifty years. meet has become a bone of contention ratio politically culturally and otherwise and renounced answer your earlier question and process me toughest single biggest impact on the environment and of any type food, and they are the biggest contribution to greenhouse gas emissions, deforestation bio-diversity, awesome solution as well as land and water use. So they're very M. resort intensive but we over time I suppose have particularly recently as society has got richer. At where meat is kind of you know traditionally, we've had it whenever we celebrate something it's it's across. Cultures across the word that we we would have me but advocate Richard, we have more of us. And the highest May. Chichi countries would be Australia. Europe, Canada. For example and the last fifty years we've had intensive farming hunting offensive. Desire, we're. We're actually over consuming what we need. Yes. If we touch on the fact that society has changed and we're almost so lucky. We are incredibly lucky if anybody listening is in a position in the UK where we can choose the food, we put on the table weekly. We have a surplus of so many different varieties of food whereas of course back then many many years ago it was wouldn't have brady work like that. As well as you mentioned the red impress me contributing more towards ill health in general. Do you feel about a message that is is cutting through people taking that seriously. It's interesting when you look at the Daesh, I think over the last fifty years you see us in certainly in developed countries us, you know who are consuming most of them each you see a stagnation of the meat take and you see a slight reduction happening, but it's not very significant. We also know that. The younger generation are. Turning Gracia interest towards the environment racer interest in animal welfare, we see a rise in veganism coming. So there are estimates. Half the population will be following more of Effects Terry dive by twenty, twenty five. So it's kind of like watch this space. I'm very positive about the movement that's happening, but that's not to say. That we become Vegan or vegetarian because a message that's really coming out is we need to eat less leash. You don't have to caution answering your diet and I think that's really good things for for many people. I couldn't agree more what one thing that we like to always reiterate on the food for thought podcast is that we place no judgment. No. No bias we just want everybody to enjoy their food and have an informed choice. I think rather than stating that they should or shouldn't be doing something. It's just just knowing that every food is there for you to enjoy. It's just how much and how often and Understand more about where it's coming from the impact it has on your body because. I think for a lot of people out there. If if we look at supermarkets and fast food chains, a lot of them can often meet at incredibly low prices and that does make it of course affordable but. Do you think that's happening impact on the population eating perhaps more more of a set tonight in Bombay need. It's interesting. I think the whole structure around retail and reproduction has that make it as cheap as possible. Let's pilot and let Selah on volume. That's not gonNa work anymore, and we have to get away from us. And even the guys that are putting together the new national food strategy for the UK amateurs, which is led by Henry Dimbleby who's had on restaurants and setup the school plan that they recently met to discuss defense rushing, which is not yet out and one of the key messages that cash was we cannot which you know would use the cost of we can't do that anymore because that actually Kohl's is a lot of the problem..