Listen: Josh Gordon, Patriots, Randy Gregory discussed on Around the Horn
"We start with jock scored and decision this morning to step away from the patriots and football redress, his mental health. He in Rappaport tweeted out patriots knew this was coming. Tom Tillis, Sarah reporting that Gordon refacing another indefinite suspension for violating terms of his reinstatement under the substance abuse policy all of that secondary. How this affects the patriots going to the postseason something you can dress later, but first the very blunt unavoidable actuality that a person is struggling so much so publicly, and I'm happy to have you all here to talk about this what he plays you've done such work with the American society for suicide prevention you've been vocal about your own battle with depression. Tim you've written a book about your fight. And how you claimed yourself back in your own way from alcohol dependency. So can you start here with how you hear this news? Yeah. I mean, I think a decade ago. I would have been like a lot of people very cynical about this. How can these guys be so dumb and waste all this money and do these things and you learn over time either through your own experiences or the experiences of others? Like Randy Gregory with the Cowboys who has been suspended multiple times playing for them now, and he's been very vocal this year about his connection between his mental health issues and his use of marijuana. And I think even the league understands this or at least certain people do, and they're they're a little more understanding of it, even though they're penalties remain rather draconian, and that's something that needs to change. But I think Josh Gordon's situation relates very clearly to that. And you know, he's tried. He's done what he could. And he's he's made a decision now to to try to take care of himself. And that's always the best decision. Kevin blackstone. Well, you know, I look at Josh, Gordon, I think about mental health issues within the African American community in the fact that particularly among black males who have to deal with this. They deal with it in a way that is very private in a way that is stigmatized, and they're so maybe in some way in some silver lining in this dark cloud. That's over. Josh, gordon. Maybe this is courageous and maybe people within our community who suffer these issues at a greater rate, but are less likely to seek help in their community for this will see something in Josh Gordon here, and hopefully, it'd be helpful to everybody page. People out there view, and even the writers of people in this panel. You look at athletes famous athletes, and you go, okay, I can understand knee injuries, and I can understand a broken arm. But really can I understand when their mental health reasons? Let me cite two examples quickly. There was a player in the Super Bowl years ago for the raiders the disappeared the week of the Super Bowl with found in Mexico. He was having mental issues. There was a rookie for the Denver Broncos committed suicide and everybody said why he's a young athlete with a lot of money because people don't understand the mental problems that we all might suffer through or what your friends or famous people are dealing with. And so I respect him for the choices made after having really a nice comeback season with the patriots. And hope he can get his life together. That's a lot more important than football Bill plash. I commend Josh Gordon's, courage. I pray for his strength. And I think it's a really enlightening view of society. He used in his tweet. He used the word mental health twice. He knew magin five years ago any athlete admitting mental health or admitting to anything mental involved in his life. I think again, this shows great courage from him and great immortalizing society that that I think this is a lot more accepted it used to be and it should be accepted. And again, we're I'm glad you said that because what I felt in reading his statement. You know, I've talked about this publicly on this show and also elsewhere the phrase, it's okay to not be okay. That's what I felt when I was reading they maybe that's a hope. But that's what I felt. And I feel that that is such an important step for recovery. Now that that addresses, the stigma you guys were talking, but I think that stigma as far as mental health, and as far as the diction we can group them together. Here is twofold.."