Don Van, Jim Ej, Barry discussed on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory


And ironically, he said that they used silver, and then they removed all the Schober and fixed the image using the, the man's urine. So effectively nNcholas Allan said they created the shroud of urine. I guess at any rate, the frustration is, is there is only one property of the shroud. Jim EJ that is similar to a photograph and that's the light and dark reversal that we've already mentioned. But every other aspect of that image is unlike any other photograph that I've ever seen. I've seen quite a few in my almost fifty year career probably most unique property damage the, the property of the image hooked me when they asked me to join the team that the property that sort of prompted me to actually join that team is the fact that their spatial or depth information or topographic information often referred to as three d information in coded into the lights and darks of the shrouds image. And that's something that no one has been able to duplicate, and there's no simple solution to how an image might form that way. Very how did you get involved in this project? Well, you know, as a professional photographer, I had a photographic studio in Santa Barbara California at the time and I had been contacted by one of the local technical companies, they were a contractor Los Alamos National labs, and they contacted me as a photographic insult for a seven month project and. Of course, it was Los Alamos, obviously, had something to do with the time bombs, and I can't really say, much more about it. But for seven months, we did that project. And I worked with a gentleman named Don van who was an imaging scientist working for that subcontractor company a few weeks after we finished that project. He called me again. You know, when you're self-employed and the phone rings you're hoping it's the next project. They called me again. And I thought how another project done and instead he said, Barry, what do you know, about the shroud of Turin? And I kind of laughed and I said, but, but dominant Jewish and Don laughed and said, so, my remember, he's one of the other Jewish guys on our team. And he was the one who was there when they took an image of the shroud. A photograph of trout, put it into an instrument called the VP janali Zor, which took the lights in the docks of the image, stretched them into three vertical space on a green screen monitor proportionate to each. Each other. And when they did that with the normal photo, you get a jumble of shapes that make no sense at all when you do it with the shroud image. You get the natural relief of a human form, and it was that property that encoding of depth information into the image that actually prompted the formation of the shroud of durin research project, when they saw that, that was the first time that a scientific instrument visualized that property, so that was sort of the milestone of the moment, and that was the catalyst for our team to be formed. And although initially, I was hesitant to participate. It was that image property more than anything else that prompted me to say yes to.

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