David Jerusalem, Israel, Bethsheba discussed on Knowing Faith



Beautiful and David sent an inquired about the woman, and one said is not this Bethsheba the daughter of Elliot the wife of your eye of the Hittite so David sent messengers and took her and she came to him, and he lay with her now, she had been purifying herself from her uncleaned cleanness than she returned to her house and the woman conceived, and she sent until David I am pregnant. Okay. So David Jerusalem. His armies are out at battle David goes up to his roof. He sees a woman bathing and a lot of times particularly in sermons on this passage, and we're in talk more about this. How this passage it's preached in a little while. But what happens here most most people are going to stop right here and their first points gonna be this woman is flaunting her business. Okay. Is that really what's going on here? Well, actually, I think what we're seeing here is that she says she had been purifying herself from her unclean nece, and so it's interesting. Why is that in there in this parenthetical statement, and obviously it's going to establish for us? This means that she's completed her menstrual cycle. And so she is she is actually demonstrating righteousness in that she is abiding by the requirements of the law, but it also stablishment that she is not currently pregnant, and so, but but the fact is the first thing that we see a best Sheba is this. She is observed. Int- of Israel's law, but why? But like some okay, I'm sorry. I'm playing devil's advocate here. I want to be really really clear. Sometimes these questions people are like man just seems to be really attack mystic. But why is she not in her private bathroom like mini bedroomed house? We we aren't told we don't know why this is taking place on the roof. But you know, the thing that is interesting is many of the commentators will acknowledge this. I think it's pretty obvious in the text the language of how this plays out is very much the language of Genesis chapter three. There is a seeing. And then there is a desiring. And then there is a taking that are happening here in the text. And so I think that should inform the way that we read this portion of the story and also the way that Nathan is going to confront David about this moment. And what we don't say. When we read the Genesis account is that eve saw the fruit on the tree. And the tree was real through was really trying to sell itself. You know, like the fruit was turning this way. And that to make sure that if it and the fruit was, you know, the fruit was tempting eat it is not the fruit. That is tempting eve it's the the fruit is. Is is passive the fruit is acted upon in the story. JT widen. What invest she would just say just say no at the row at the risk of sounding crass. Yeah. Because I've heard I've heard a literally appreciably the righteous for bashing. But what would have been just say no at that point. I mean the power dynamic between somebody who's bathing in the king's sitting on his roof is universes apart. She's not an position to say. No, she's in a position to be taken advantage of. And that's exactly what's happening. There's injustice objectification dehumanisation. She's just not in a place where she feels that. She can say no, this is a grave injustice being done by David. So David doesn't look at her as another daughter of Israel. He looks at her as merely an opportunity to say she had this desire that he feels with right? Yeah. I mean, not only that. But if you look at the language, there's a there are other clues here that are given to help us understand how to read this and one of them is that she's the daughter of Elian, which we find out further on the text makes her the granddaughter of a hit the fell the gala night. Right. Who is a Canaanite? And then she's married to your riot the Hittite who has also Canaanite. And so not only is she a woman bathing on a roof. But she is married to a person of little consequence who has an outsider, and she herself as the granddaughter of person who is an outsider. And so she with a picture that's being not only that. But he's on the roof looking down and that that's illustrating. Even just the the social stratification of the whole thing that he is high and lifted up, and she is the the least in the lowest the SUNY times already on this podcast in the teaching the bible. Studies is wicked kings take take. That's right. Took her. And it's specifically put in there to curious to think back to Samuel in the words that he had this was not an offer of would you like to come to a bedroom? It was taking. Yeah. And you hit on this minute ago. JT something we have talked about I think we've talked about on the show before. But there is a lot of times we read the bible in these stories is if they're happening in vacuum. But there is a very real power dynamic on display here. And I think that particularly there is there's an uncomfortable among the Christian community to ignore. How some times people in the bible characters in the bible who we want to behind noble abuse that power dynamic for their own gain. But they do that they do that just like other people in the world do that. Just like we as Christians do that. Right. So it's not just that. Like, David's the only one who's ever abused power dynamic. But he. He is one who has one of the things that's interesting here. I don't wanna get too far off topic. But we've just done a podcast recently on humble Calvinism and attendant of Calvinism is total depravity. But for some reason in some reformed communities were only comfortable talking about total depravity as it relates to individuals, not systems of injustice or power dynamics. There wouldn't be some kind of a system in place. That would itself be totally depraved is something that the reformed communities should be entirely familiar with engine wanting to be repentant of, but for some reason that isn't readily acknowledged, but I think something that we see here is it's not just that David is totally depraved. He is. But he's also taking advantage of a system. That's depraved. Also, where the strong good stronger and the Rico week are taking advantage of and that's not God's righteous way. No. But it isn't abuse of that system. That's right. It's an abusive power. And so when we're thinking about the full breadth of David's wickedness here because oftentimes this story is really just trivia. Allies into and I- trivialized adultery is a very serious thing and the bible condemns adultery. And and says that Daltry is wrong. So you don't need to ask does the bible adultery is a positive thing. The bible is unified view that adultery is wrong. But a lot of times the take on this story is just David committed adultery. That's the thing. It's that David and Bethsheba committed adultery. And and I think there is a desire to romanticize David into row, and because he's going to marry best Sheba in our minds that means and they lived happily ever after that. That's what's going on here is this adultery. Yes. It is a dull -tory in the sense that when we find Nathan coming to David and telling him as sin, we find that David has adulterated what was a pure and happy marriage. So it is a dull tree, but we have cultural baggage around the term adultery to where when we hear adultery. We think a fair we. That two people who were equally had equal agency in the matter looked at one another and thought that the other was attractive, and then broke up their marriages to begin a sexual relationship. Is that this story? No equal agency. That's helpful like that term. Yeah. Freeze while the because just this should be disagreeable to no one. But David invest Sheba were not equal. No, I'm at the risk of just pointing out. What we've obviously stated they are very David holds the highest position in Israel in Bethsheba as jenner's pointed out is marginalized by at least three different things. Right. Like, the who her father was who her husband is? And then just her status in Israel, and she's a woman gender gender too. And and the thing that's interesting to Texas. Also, queuing us to her objectification by the fact that she's named by someone other than David in verse. Three when he goes to enquire who she is. And then after that she is not named again. Until after this whole thing has played out. She's referred to as the woman. So like she like the act itself is the stories like tell you like, she's she becomes nameless. They're they're there. I think that the narrator is asking us to see her the way that David sees her. She is a category. She is a commodity instead of she is a human with a name Jin. Is there anything here? In tile you too. Obviously, this is a highly sexualize story. Yeah. Not taking away from that. At all. Is there anything here in terms of David's desire that also relates to him by his own means and effort trying to bring about the promises of God? With the sun. Yeah. So like, it's

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