Khalil Muhammad, David, Director discussed on City Arts and Lectures

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What you talking talk. Wow. Grabbing by the shows. And she said, Hilton them hiring you go. See them. That's how she. It's very funny. Yeah, but it was it was sort of, like, I think I was maybe the seventh right of color that they had ever hired in Haiti, seventy years. Right. So one of the great things that happened with David remnant was that I would. There was the mazing voice. I'm sorry. His name is escaping me. Now David would go and see anybody who was recommended. So was that a similar thing for you? Yeah. And so for Khalil Muhammad who is a dear friend of mine, and we went to shamburg shamburg right now. He's at Harvard. He was a director of the Schanberg center in Harlem, and he's a dear friend of mine. We went to graduate school together. We almost got arrested together, which was like the way I became friends, very crazy, like brief aside. First year graduate, I master Khalil gets a parking ticket actually driving for some ridiculous little his frame. His university of Pennsylvania alumni frame, blocking obscuring his life. Playing whatever so give them a ticket for this. And I want to go down to the peace and talk to them about this. You wanna come and play. Sure. And like a fool because I don't know Khalil and we get to the precinct, and, you know, he's like I'd like to talk to, like wherever's in charge, and Khalil is like this tall and I'm like this tall. And so I'm like, okay, we get there. And he says, you got this ticket and I wanted to find out why got it was like, well because you have this license plate. And he's saying that y and the officers white guy, who's like, I don't know. Maybe in this forty like, yeah, that's why he said, because my estimation is because they are racist cops in this in this area. And they pulled me over, because I'm a black man driving my car. Right. Was like that silent. My first thought was like we in the precinct and I did not tell anybody I was coming here. Nobody knows we're here the way you are. I am. Lil is like just dressing these people down. I'm looking around like, man, next time, you, do you give me a heads up. So anyway, he and I have friends from that point on. Right. And so. He when he became director of the shamburg. And I have been trying. I've been writing largely like black outlets point almost twenty years. Aside from the Washington paper, that was the only non black outlet. I had written four probably in my life, and I was sitting across. I was coming to this event at the schamberg, and it was like a reception in so Khalil said, I'm going to sit you across from David rim. Knicks say something smart. And so I sat down and better conversation. But similarly, a similar story, which is that he said, you should write for us. You should write something like this guy is not serious. You know. And maybe a couple of weeks after that any Davidson sent me an Email like David said that you were interested in writing you should do something for us. And I said, okay. There was this little story out of Florida about this young man, who had been killed and have been no arrests made. And I was like I just did a basic why you should know why you should care about this why the stories important thing and the young man was named Trayvon Martin. And then the tax opened up because Amy said, you should follow the story and follow that story and then Ferguson happened, and then Baltimore with Freddie gray happened, and then Charleston happened, and then there was all of these stories that were landing on my death. And I felt a kind of obligation to write about them because I put them in a historical context, and I could say this is not a novel development. This is not something that is just a quirk of the system that these people have found themselves receiving end of boot -ality from largely white officers charged with enforcing the law. It's one of the things that you write about in your book, that saying that the history of black, oppression is not separate from police brutality. Depression and. One of the things that I really wanted to talk to you about tonight, was the fact that when I read you on these subjects. I'm learning something about my own history that I didn't and that not only makes it resonate. But also allows me to have the information to talk to somebody else. So thank you. When these stories started coming up you were also thinking a lot about Barat during those years married. The worst thing that right? Is hate in their own words. But Mary something you wrote. Sure. Okay. This is from Gilani's book, the substance of hope. All his Gilani writes, all his accomplishments, Barack Obama's ultimate significance, maybe less as a president than as a harbinger of what comes after his presidency. I know. Even as he campaigns for the highest office in the land, and Abam generation was taking shape. You can't you can't. And you're part of. Little younger part of his generation what affected his election have on you. And then subsequently the title of three Clinton, right?.

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