Walmart, Solon, Sonny discussed on Dual Threat with Ryen Russillo


I'm eating dinner at Walmart for 88 cents. You're very functional. I have nothing to compare. Nothing to compare this to. But I used to paint. And you know, I'd be up pretty high in a ladder, certainly not el cap, but and I had a ladder. So I would hate it because all I would do was think. It wasn't the painting. It wasn't the heights. It wasn't the wind. It wasn't anything. It was just that all I'm doing is thinking the entire time because the painting once you get decent at it sort of mindless. And then I started thinking about you and I thought maybe with your personality. And you can't, it's not like you'd be mindless when you're technically climbing this kind of challenging mountain. But do you think your personality is the perfect makeup for your sport? I don't know about that, but I will say that I totally hear you on the having time to think. And that is one of the things I love about climbing that I love about solon. Because with all the hiking to and from mountains and all the and all the easy soloing is mindless enough that you can just kind of think like you're saying. And I really like that. And so on something like a cap, probably a third of it actually is pretty mindless. I mean, maybe a third of the face is relatively easy climbing, like easy enough grade that my mind can wander and I can think about whatever. And then a third of it's like more serious and then a third of its kind of hardcore where you have to be like 100% like this is intense. But no, I like the mindlessness. I like the thinking the time to yourself to just sort of wonder about the world. You know, it's like, that's a big part of being outdoors to myth for me. I felt a little guilty during a guy that isn't married. When Sonny's basically like, I took your side in one of the arguments. I was not on your side when you were shopping for a house and you weren't helping where the tape measure. I took Sony side on that one because I did think that was a bad look. But I remember watching the movie and being kind of frustrated on your behalf. You're like, hey, this is pretty hard on its own. I don't need to be told all the bad things and you were kind of like, hey, it was almost like you were a customer service. You're like, you're position is noted. And I'm going to keep climbing. I know it's a movie and clearly everything has worked out. But that was, I found that kind of tough because I think all of us that were invested in the movie were kind of on your side because we wanted to see you accomplish this great feat. And it felt a little bit like I know where she was coming from, but I don't know. I guess maybe you weren't even frustrated by it because you were so focused, but it was just kind of an odd dynamic, I think, because it was like, oh, he doesn't need this. Oh, I don't know. I mean, it's just like those types of conversations are such an integral part of a climbing relationship. It's like, you know, I mean, the conversation that's on film, but it's like, we probably had variations of that conversation, you know, dozens of times. And it's not necessarily that's contentious or that's like a problem in the relationship. It's just that you can't do dangerous things without talking to your partners about it. And not just romantic partner, like with my wife, but like all my climbing partners, like every time you're doing something in the big mountains, you're doing albinism like you're constantly talking about risk and people's individual willingness to take risks. And so I don't know. Not that stressed if somebody needs to have some conversations about it. Yeah, no, you're right. And there's a lot that we don't see. And obviously.

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