Sandra Samuel, Derek Sheldon, Boston discussed on Here & Now


Uhm, there's a feeling of the work is not yet done is the feeling that that justice has been served. Maybe some accountability has been Um, given but justice hasn't been served in. We need tol Bill down on our efforts to make sure we ushering in a living embodied anti racist culture, and that hasn't been served yet. Yeah, well, you talked about creating spaces safe spaces in Minneapolis. For people to go to. Maybe even someone's parlor is are people doing that? Yeah, what I've been saying in terms of the people that I've been holding, but also in communities that people are are much more, especially in the black community. Much more geared towards turning towards each other and not on each other. Remember that just because we got a guilty verdict does not mean that the brutality of white body supremacy Has gone away so people are are gathered are starting to gather together. People are turning towards each other and in really trying to usher in a different type of, um, reality for us, not just in Minneapolis but all across the nation and across the world. Yeah. How is trauma showing up? It's it's interesting, completely different. But I was thinking how where we are. At least I am here in Boston. You know, a year after the Boston bombing, the day almost feels sacred. But also it brings back you know, for a lot of people. What? What? What about there? Yeah. So one of the things that I've been hearing a lot of people who have lost, um, who have lost Children due to police violence. One of the things that I've heard them say quite a bit is that you know they love the support. You know the things that in terms of people rallying around them, But what happens a year from now, two years from down three years from now, when you're actually going through the Are people still reaching out? Are people still holding them are people putting their arms around him? And so I think, you know, we have to think about this in the long term, as opposed to the short time that the that the people in our community will need support. From here on out. Look. A recent Associated Press poll showed that 61% of black Americans say Derek Sheldon's conviction hasn't changed their confidence in the criminal justice system. They don't have much We're reading the police department in Minneapolis, which you worked with in the past. Is woefully understaffed, Demoralized. Have you spoken with Minneapolis officers about how they feel? I'm not not not the whole not the police department. But I've spoken with individual officers. And one of the things that's happening now is that we forget that you know, racial justice and violence and gun violence and communities are and police accountability are connected. Hand in hand. Communities. Black communities across the nation. Don't feel comfortable in interacting with the police. So therefore, when we need the police, we don't reach out to the police because we don't see them as an asset, and I think was happening now. Is that you know, because of, you know, Children and and also the increasing in and gun violence. Here we're was, there's a kind of like a A point where people are saying, you know, we need we need to make sure that we heal from this stuff in the police. People don't have confidence that the police are are willing to actually take the step forward. In terms of accountability so well, But then you have people like long time black activist Sandra Samuel. She's part of a group of residents who sued the city or over police shortages, he said. We need the police. So there's that as well. Just Yeah, we have Yeah,.

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