Maryland, Bladensburg, Federal Government discussed on Bruce Elliott


What a week. Holy smokes. A lot of ground to cover between now and noon today. Interesting note, Maryland Moesby says that she's not going to actually pursue any marijuana cases before her office because in a couple of years it's going to be legal anyway. That she has decided apparently. That she is the legislature in this state, and she has decided that. A couple of years. It's not going to be illegal. So what the heck? Easy solution to this. You're a prosecutor you're supposed to prosecute people who violate the law. If you don't like the law have the law changed not in a couple years pushing apple is to change it right now this minute this legislative session. Truly if this is what the interest is. And the argument is sound then tell Annapolis move your butts. Here's all the data you need, Mika legal. Now, let us become the east coast, Colorado, dude, really. So she she finished her statement yesterday about this, by the way, then down an entire bag of Cheetos. I don't know what that was all about. Just curious. We'll talk about that. If we have the opportunity to during the show, but I thought that was certainly worth a mention at the beginning of the show. Now, there's a very interesting thing happening or Washington DC right now, and we will get to the Coen stuff. There's a lot of time for that. When I posted something yesterday because I think it's instructive, and it's informative. There's real question as to whether this war memorial cross in Bladensburg is a violation of the establishment clause of the constitution. The American humanist association. Has decided that it must be. It's clearly a violation of the establishment clause. I note in in the link that I put up yesterday, and I would advise you take a look at it. Because I think it's very interesting to note, what the founders intended, they said that the federal government. Well, have nothing to do with the establishment of religion. Right. That's that was your point all thirteen colonies had established state-sanctioned churches. Going so far as and what is your kiss say only if you were a Protestant? Could you hold office? Well, what do you intend to the founders was to say is this is the state's business as individual states? It's not our job as the federal government to make this decision for the individual states. We have to respect that they have the right because many of them were in one fashion or another originally religious colonies. With respect their individual religious choices. This is ancient history supposed back in the seventeen seventies. But the link is there you can follow it. And I found it very interesting because you can actually click on certain parts of the link on each individual colony and you'll see exactly when the established church of that particular colony began when it ended up what circumstances, and it strikes me that it ended the last one ended I think toward the end of the civil war. So we had established churches for quite some time. In this country at the state level. And the intent of the fathers wasn't to say don't you dare say anything at all about religion. Voters was to say we're supposed to keep our fingers off. This is a state issue. Now things have changed, of course. But I think that understanding the histories kind of useful when we begin to talk about the peace cross in Bladensburg. Is this a federal issue? Apparently. No it is. Apparently now, this is a federal issue. Not a state issue. For example, if you take a look at the link, then I post as religion in the original thirteen color, you have to scroll down there. And you take a look at Maryland, for example. We had an established church for two hundred and thirty five years from sixteen thirty two until eighteen sixty seven after the civil war. And I read you yesterday part of article thirty three an article thirty five which pertain directly to our established church. The Maryland constitution. Did that? Now all religious requirements were eventually eliminated in the constitution of eighteen sixty seven that is after the civil war for those of you who live in Delaware. Yeah. There was an established church there. Because no people can be truly happy though, under the greatest enjoyment of civil liberties, if abridged of the freedom of their conscience as to their religious profession and worship and almighty, God being the only Lord of conscience father of lights and spirit and the author as well as the object of all divine, knowledge, faith, and worship who only enlighten the minds and persuade and convince the understanding of people, I do hereby granted declare the no person or persons inhabiting in this a province or territories who shall confess and acknowledge our almighty, God, the creator upholder and ruler of the world and profess him or themselves obliged to live quietly under the civil government Shelby any case molested or prejudiced in his or their person of a state or estate rather because of his or their conscious persuasion or practice, nor be compelled to frequent or maintain any religious worship place or ministry car. Contrary to his or their mind, and that all persons who also profess to believe in Jesus Christ the savior of the world shall be capable notwithstanding. Their other persuasions and practices and points of conscience to serve this government in any capacity, both legislatively and executive that's a seventeen o one charter of the state of Delaware. Where it was said that Christianity was the official faith. Of Delaware all thirteen colonies. State authorized churches the federal government being told keep your paws off it. Now. It's all the case. It's just interesting to take a look at what once was. So the questions must a large Christian cross commemorating soldiers who died in World War One. And it's been in place now for ninety four years. Must it be taken down because three people are offended by it. Interesting question. What about fifteen people are offended by what about if there's one person offended by it? Is it somehow violation of the establishment clause of the constitution? Now the court heard opening arguments about this yesterday. And the arguments continue today the peace cross around forty feet tall dedicated to the individuals in the Bladensburg area who died during World War One. It's not dedicated to individuals from Nebraska. I mean, it's very specifically to those who died from Bladensburg and the surrounding area. The memorial supporters. Those of us who think this is any Arctic to remove this ninety four year old. Piece. Of course, I also felt it was removed the confederate statues. But that's that show. How retrograde I actually am. The cross was completed in one thousand nine hundred eighty five. That's a ninety four years ago. The crosses defenders include the Maryland officials who took over maintenance of the cross around sixty years ago in order to preserve it and address traffic safety concerns. State of Maryland says the cross does not violate the constitution because it as a secular purpose. And meaning. So does cross ever have little or no religious significance. A ruling against us. Those of us who think the peace crush remain exactly where it is. A speaks to a broader sense of sacrifice of those individuals and level country. You do this. God forbid the American humanist association ever drive through Arlington National Cemetery. And I don't know if you've ever actually been to earn dimensional cemetery, but on every single headstone. You'll see a cross or a star of David or half crescent. Does this constitute then? Violation of the establishment clause. To recognize that those individuals who are buried there were of individual faiths. And of course, there are some where there is no indication whatsoever. Either because it was known or because the individuals who died and service to this country ahead. No professed faith. Neil Gorsuch yesterday asked if it's not time to get rid of this test. See the supreme court has been a little less clear on this. There are cross memorials all across the country. You drive along country road word I pass on the other day. Sean wrote a not too far from Cal Ripken's old house, which is now I think Adam Jones's house there's little Morial right by tree where somebody apparently hit the tree and somebody's put across there as well. As other images, remembering the person who died at the particular spot is this a violation almost undoubtedly on state land is somebody violating the constitution by making note of that particular death. There's in questions. Do you want to take him down? Is does this constitute excessive government entanglement with religion? That is the basis of this going back to nineteen seventy-one decision there. The establishment clause. On the same day in two thousand five the court upheld a ten commandments monument on the grounds of the Texas State capitol. They struck down a ten commandments display and Kentucky courthouse. The supreme court has not been exactly clear on this. And once again, they're addressing something that if you go historically way back when was not a federal issue at all. And I find that just kind of ironic to think that when when the establishment clause was written. It was not the establishment clause of the individual colonies, it was the establishment clause for the new government that would oversee the individual states. Don't forget that prior to the civil war. We would say the United States of America are doing the following. The understanding is there were individual states just as the state of Israel or the state of France. That meaning changed. In the run-up to and following the civil wars. So we know say the United States of America is doing something was a massive change. We became no longer viewed as individuals states having certain rights and obligations. We became view it as part of a whole. Now while the supreme court is hearing this. Eric baxter. The vice president and senior counsel for the second fund for religious liberty was they're arguing the case. And he says it ordering the cross down would send a very bad message those expressions as benign expressions of religion did not arise to a constitutional harm are not the types of harm that the founders intended to prevent when they drafted the establishment clause. Monica Miller is the American humane association arguing counsel, and she says gotta go we're here to honor all veterans today, not just Christians, but everyone who is not represented by a Latin cross as a war memorial for also here in support of Christians who do not want their Latin cross their sacred symbol of Christianity to be in the power of the government, which is a very odd thing to say, the implication that a piece crossed that's been in place for ninety four years. Puts Christianity in the power of the government. That is simply factually untrue..

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